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Sun, 01 Nov 2020 12:59:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Jean Louis's message of "Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:54:20 +0300") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:70vZHp2LMeuVdIs38AesYb68U5bHNsiw8Kg4yjA/bk8g2Z3g9iO RJXO2mkKYWOyTDTH7TbhidfOFPqCJrqC09NOMkobuSklQrtKiUtIUuBbvB+XjZXIHly7aUK SYwU7PkkaYzQFoaUbFuAgL6dlakMUOIOGpHoKli6UPQF4caVzDInrwmCB/p1LzzoYitGFo7 e2T+LDhpj8aZSnTFJY/4g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:OXUY1tAFD0U=:ohocjWpiQFGZYIiegy9tGG LRlUG+YHRRyHrQca59HsLeH+oigLoTAq+6+bIbTqJDzLa8anNMCd7v1bxxly4UVsKljutEUGY YzK3KvYV776RrU5Hu1QaiTGWKNLAvxwsub0AjYUQbsaToxtKCANBdFd+7FlLRa/rIVohr75kJ BoS/zOVsz6aAvAJTLTLsiJzyOJzh4zC+ug5POcYX+1pd5p6X8IBLOt6fbT04gB6HnxXBGStXW ZQpy666Tc+oSNsHjkUDTPjEisL8OB6xlm0qkhVgAL52/oZgh+6Nyv6MXfP6Se6MCxJIEE1wNc TRGGsJjGQOmHXPLjQ6iG8Qlcw7zV4TGQMe5MOXsu78L6udG8BCKV1kMey1lpBte4F5KoFAQBl rOa0SqY/BLSZawzLrZoJZSBeQjzdgebnCmy4rEerFD8Wlam7oGuVUL5C/9Vqt2KZ0DL1DPxii AClEYOMd4TZq7MaTvIjMaPWwdfSe+ohtry8YVGrv628GHUG9NXUFpBQvhMM38zpT8gOB6nEh6 UfIbyTOIL13SF0xOU60SSFRvrmAqAetJPwO1gd2GOtX4/jGXmphPVp3n4qN+GGn9fHgerxWQY 6XkiNo2LljfwOly86YsDxCbP/3DZgNsJIOzjT7nnV4SEO0m2joKIp4Ia0OHIOj7auoHNXttxU 87qEJHRgWFOeS8kRC2M69i/hvLl0+cdujey8El/9n0rPUjtlK96YUzu8/L7E6OKOdIpOGmXwA 58p3r3P8jpmcgtDRYkV6yAqLcaK1dYCfzujl803QMkyAu3VQnmA88j11RKp5VoI4BAp/vS9T X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:192346 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: Hi Jean, >> > Not universal for every OSs. Freedesktop specification is exclusively >> > for GNU/Linux which accept parts or whole of Freedesktop, yet there >> > are those which do not. >> >> GNU/Linux is the primary target for Emacs. It is perfect to support its= spec. > > Freedesktop.org is not equivalent to GNU/Linux. > > It is maybe popular but it is not and need not be standard. > > From: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/ > > Interoperability specifications > > freedesktop.org produces specifications for interoperability, but we > are not an official standards body. There is no requirement for > projects to implement all of these specifications, nor certification. > > so > > GNU/Linux distributions may decide to adhere or may not. > > I hope you that Emacs should NOT be exclusively target for GNU/Linux > distributions adopting some of specifications from Freedesktop.org as > Emacs is widely used for example on BSD systems. Emacs does not exclusively target for GNU/Linux systems. Every user is free to set trash-directory to whatever value. For every platform, a system specific system-move-file-to-trash function can be implemented, it exists already for w32. > Tramp may access remote files by using FTP, rsync, scp, and other > protocols, I just hope that trash inclusion is not intertwined in > those protocols where remote command execution would not even work. I've implemented trashing to local trash for whatever connection protocol (except ftp, because it has its own implementation, ange-ftp.el). Just pushed to master. Could you, pls check? Best regards, Michael.