From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:11:06 +0100 Message-ID: <87im9s3pdh.fsf@logand.com> References: <864kmzupp0.fsf@akirakyle.com> <86pn46awrr.fsf@akirakyle.com> <87y2ise7j5.fsf@gnus.org> <87lferb7co.fsf@gnus.org> <20201126082711.GA12134@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14422"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 26 20:12:25 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kiMgo-0003Xz-4C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:12:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56150 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiMgn-0000FS-6L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 14:12:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32786) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiMfp-0008FT-0m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 14:11:21 -0500 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]:41186) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiMfn-0007z6-7V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 14:11:20 -0500 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B904F19FD81; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:11:08 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: emacs 26.3 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: <20201126082711.GA12134@tuxteam.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259844 Archived-At: On Thu 26 Nov 2020 at 09:27, wrote: > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 06:25:10AM +0100, Arthur Miller wrote: >> Why is it desirable to view jpegs in Emacs rather then run >> insert-your-favourite-image-viewer-here? Or why is it desirable to >> render html in emacs rather then run Firefox? why does this need libraries instead of programs? >> For me: less processes, why is it a good thing? >> less switching between applications, nice to have things in Emacs >> buffers. why does this need libraries instead of programs? > Imagine being able to say "org-store-link" at a specific frame in > a video. Or at specific (x, y) coordinates in a frame in said > video. why does this need libraries instead of programs? > Just imagine :-) imagine all the extra vulnerabilities linked into the emacs process $ ldd emacs | wc -l 94 hmm, that is a lost cause already libraries are easier to use but programs run in separate processes and can be extra sandboxed