From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2021 15:10:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87ilz9x5c8.fsf@gnus.org> References: <97d3ff2c-9e72-4004-88a9-08130ac99a74@default> <838s0fpixr.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0jtr45c.fsf@gnu.org> <87v93avtoe.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1dyvtav.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtolx6de.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1835"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 21695@debbugs.gnu.org, hmelman@gmail.com, Richard Stallman To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 09 15:11:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJpm-0000HH-SQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 15:11:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53412 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJpk-0007qJ-On for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:11:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37250) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJpX-0007o6-AK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51095) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJpW-0006WC-Bm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:11:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJpW-0005Mp-7Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:11:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2021 13:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21695 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 21695-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21695.163119302920586 (code B ref 21695); Thu, 09 Sep 2021 13:11:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21695) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2021 13:10:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34408 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJoz-0005Ly-63 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:10:29 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJow-0005Lf-AX for 21695@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:10:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=FclY+3fycugODS4zDuyYumEB+gjtgWo/0SMHBcmWIY0=; b=LBTocXY1x13ProzCssNBq+rRQB mMlq0KkHrnojll7ornyWLDrR36D2HAv9w+gbWW7Uwf3MK4wa7RMVa4w5l4inr9/L9r0Ydv+KLKY+o RL2vOL4k+SvMBrTxUF5CWOYrJ9kB8tmRAmoE5UZtoQXSL+KcK6lHsUAuYLxSeeUl2WUw=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJom-00079Z-72; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 15:10:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Gregory Heytings's message of "Thu, 09 Sep 2021 13:04:02 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:213903 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: > Do you have an example of a variable with a :set for which it isn't > problematic to use setq, and an example for which it is? Do you mean after loading/starting the package? I guess most of them are problematic after loading, like (at random) vcursor-key-bindings. Most variable that's autoloaded and has a :set can probably be set safely with setq (before loading the .el file). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no