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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278335 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: > >> Shouldn't we have those standard triangles/arrows on which to click to >> hide/unhide? > > Yes, that'd be nice. Perhaps with a user option to toggle between > classic "..." outlining and triangles? Jonas's magit-section (available on NonGNU ELPA) more or less does exactly that: on the GUI, add chevrons to the left fringe (right chevron means "hit TAB to expand", down chevron means "hit TAB to fold back"); on the TUI, append ellipses to expandable sections. It's not 100% feature-complete (IIRC it does not fall back to ellipses on GUI when there's no fringe, and it has no mouse support), but FWIW I'd love for outline(-minor)-mode to behave similarly. (This might have been mentioned in the thread, but Juri recently introduced describe-bindings-outline, which enables outline-minor-mode in C-h b)