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From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 51343@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#51343: 27.2; Xaw3d scrollbar thumb doesn't update while dragged
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:07:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ilvk5bjr.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1r28bkcz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 19 Dec 2021 12:07:27 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> Po Lu [2021-10-23 15:32:48] wrote:
>> Previously, in an Emacs built with Xaw3d scroll bars, the thumb
>> proportion would update as the scrollbar was dragged.  Now it doesn't
>> update until the scrollbar is released, and something that makes the
>> scrollbar position change happens.
>
> To give you some context:
>
> Many years ago, I spent a fair bit of time trying to get scrollbars
> working "right".  It's a major pain in the ass, because most toolkits
> don't support our requirements: once the bottom of the thumb hits the
> bottom of its course it stops there, but the corresponding top part of
> the thumb may correspond to a window-start which leads to a screen where
> point-max is not visible (in response to which we'd reduce the size of
> the thumb, but that happens too late (either because the toolkit has
> already decided not to tell us that the user's mouse was trying to go
> further, or because the toolkit doesn't support updating the thumb size
> while dragging it).
>
> There was a simple patch to Xaw3d which made it behave more like Xaw (by
> making the Xaw3d more like Xaw's) and made the whole thing work
> perfectly for us, but it was never accepted upstream because it went
> against their philosophy of what "the metaphor should be".

This particular feature used to work in Emacs 23 though, so that can't
be the entirety of the problem.





  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-20  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <878ryk9owv.fsf.ref@yahoo.com>
2021-10-23  7:32 ` bug#51343: 27.2; Xaw3d scrollbar thumb doesn't update while dragged Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23  8:24   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23  9:56     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23 11:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23 12:35         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23 14:16       ` Glenn Morris
2021-10-24  2:15         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-24  6:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24  6:28             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-24  7:01               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24  9:47                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-12-19 17:07   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-12-20  1:07     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
     [not found]       ` <jwvv8zj8jb1.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2021-12-21  1:04         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-13 15:00   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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