From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Theodor Thornhill Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master f6967d2 1/3: Allow for the completion buffer to be automatically selected Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 22:30:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87ilvg8gzb.fsf@thornhill.no> References: <875yrga0oi.fsf@thornhill.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18399"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net To: Daniel =?utf-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 22 22:32:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n09DY-0004VN-DR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 22:32:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47506 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n09DW-0005Z8-D2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 16:32:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51200) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n09CK-0004mO-2A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 16:30:56 -0500 Original-Received: from out0.migadu.com ([94.23.1.103]:16611) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n09CH-0001nV-I1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 16:30:55 -0500 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thornhill.no; s=key1; t=1640208650; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=UvhCI6CsSPLPrl6U27LBIHK40drQ7GrIjcK4d7zYF9E=; b=qtKCQ6c5m+PRpdj+YOYwpt5441VNa9QySdfs7xsSyw/qlFprddkOWS4cYG2CfUDztCqTpJ e59/ItdY8VdJuC2cM8DRNen5ENZYXWDQBX/WFbaPP/g5RU5pqAHiW92ztcIN4WiwfVzYP+ 4x0URCzN30zemaGakdDJVvJmyOdbsvrFVmxnVhbhzwswnK/XrLIo8wbeLND8S3tKetnGpb BczhqrnO5VOBvNOYH7Cgq9jFDrzoMCrzxKkUsse0VGE3MXuCz85qPJcfHzBxxZnvuSlmRp 1ToCNpvAz9y0vzbc05fQyOSpEt1CB8nyzfmw/7qs0J1r5lWi1KfFmjBGXG4Cww== In-Reply-To: X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Migadu-Auth-User: thornhill.no Received-SPF: pass client-ip=94.23.1.103; envelope-from=theo@thornhill.no; helo=out0.migadu.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282843 Archived-At: Daniel Mart=C3=ADn writes: > > Many people prefer to use a selection workflow for the minibuffer, yes, > the popularity of packages like ivy, selectrum, ido, icicles, helm, > etc. speak for itself. But on master the implemented solution was more > or less an intermediate one where the completion list was not shown > automatically and the results were not filtered "on the fly". IMO, that > kind of intermediate solution doesn't help much to attract people used > to that kind of workflow from other applications/Emacs packages, and > only annoy people used to vanilla completion. > Right, I see your point. > Another experiment that might be more successful is to enable an ELPA > package like mct[1] by default, and offer a single option to revert to > the default minibuffer behavior, for people used to vanilla completion. > I actually use mct, and have for a while. I like that it is not as intrusive as the other projects.