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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282896 Archived-At: Arthur Miller writes: > Actually, I percieve that for freedom of software it is equally > important to have documentation for the sources as the sources > themselves. Situation with docs is somewhat addressed in last years or > so, but there were times when many GNU projects came out with very few > comments, usually no dev docs, and scarce descriptions about > internals. I said several times to Eli Z. to write a book about Emacs > internals; that would probably be the best boost to Emacs development. Emacs internals are documented very well, inside both the relevant parts of the Lisp reference manual and the code itself. Writing a book would not make for much benefit. In fact, it would become tiresome to keep that book up to date. I think that there is a misconception floating around the internet that Emacs internals are difficult to understand. Certain individuals spreading misinformation hold a great deal of responsibility for this situation. IOW, a significant boost to Emacs development will result from combating this disinformation.