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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283553 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Sorry if I wasn't clear: this is just a patch for now. > I didn't yet push it. Got it. I misunderstood the meaning of "how is this?" (treating it as if you pointed to an already existing change). > +Some packages are so-called "core" packages. The GNU ELPA scripts > +will pick them up from the Emacs master branch and release them as > +packages periodically; a new version is packaged when their "Version" > +comment header is updated. Normally a new package is released within > +24 hours after bumping the version on the Emacs master branch. An > +examples is lisp/progmodes/python.el, which is released as the "python" > +package at: https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/python.html Still sounds confusing. Ideally, I would like to see a separate heading, immediately visible by contributors. Something like "Releasing updates in Emacs core ahead of next Emacs version", but probably more succinct. > +Some packages are so-called "core" packages. Maybe, "GNU ELPA is also used to distribute latest changes in built-in packages ahead of the next Emacs release." --- Not directly related to you patch, but rather to the existing text: >> This repository does _not_ contain the Emacs Lisp package archive >> (elpa.gnu.org). This is totally confusing. GNU ELPA does not contain packages? tarballs? What does it contain? Best, Ihor