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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283690 Archived-At: Aiko Kyle writes: > As I see. So in this idea, the entire webpage would be rendered in the > case of a xwidget webkit? That seems like it would be costly for > especially large webpages. WebKit in general tends to choke on large webpages, so I'm not too worried. > Do you then plan on implementing other xwidget types besides the > webkit one? I think with respect to the UI, osr makes more sense for > other widget types like buttons. Yes, there will be a GStreamer widget: it will use multiple video sinks connected to a single tee, allowing for a source to be displayed in multiple windows without offscreen rendering. > I agree the offscreen rendering is more general, however it seems to > me to add significant complexity that would be unnecessary if the UI > for it doesn't require it. Especially since the one-to-one webkit > buffer-window paradigm already has to be accounted for on ns, where > osr isn't available. I consider that a bug, but I don't know enough about NS development to fix it.