From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ian Kelling Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: contributing to Emacs Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:47:03 -0400 Message-ID: <87ilbaf9sg.fsf@fsf.org> References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <183ae6c17b4d07701e76003dc72c25d8d2705611.camel@yandex.ru> <87pm5t7yu4.fsf@yahoo.com> <339b006829e123a3f6eeaffbd66f557ea837fdcd.camel@yandex.ru> <87y1kgdax7.fsf@web.de> <83o7lc91kh.fsf@gnu.org> <87leggd2cu.fsf@web.de> <83ilbk8u1k.fsf@gnu.org> <448f75fb368e4ae61dd8bd7899047602a806228a.camel@yandex.ru> <83h6r48a02.fsf@gnu.org> <83mt0v70d3.fsf@gnu.org> <03bef840fc28d46a2ffbf9c94c18a3cbf96de08f.camel@yandex.ru> <83cz1q75do.fsf@gnu.org> <83o7la5cw0.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0q1my6k.fsf@thaodan.de> <87mt0nktkv.fsf@thaodan.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8793"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.10.3; emacs 30.0.50 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, mailman@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 26 19:14:02 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qDpmr-00022k-Nr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:14:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qDpm6-0003Y2-Fr; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 13:13:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qDpPY-000444-0n; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:49:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fsf.org; s=eggs-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-reply-to:Date:Subject:To:From:References; bh=eO79Od4RxeeIBKrcUUVm8wGHcqitLYqi9HrrDMl+zPQ=; b=KJW825425l4nwP3SgHxcnPzyz G+O6W/W3TvkHcY9REUxIdsxY5l+1cGwcu93moht0URB7T4Mn+D6+7YID1zBYhjIZpFuF68TvbxjZZ WJBjLDRvCJiebkl3KqnfEhffZKi/m08AWJxi5YJ6VKpzC07esu/KP+eGM5yg51gdhhepwtvF4Vvj5 C7gsolA1EJOpLvsWRsElf/IKgwrV9LxrgHYhc29Xll9LTFgr50Kb/5vrbnGkwsiiCIy2buunjzxMx 7+SrUCVLRzHChqnXRrAy3h2NtPPSOfGkXo8TRgdegqrYkVADisxIvr9y4p/wglUKrQ/gALksBuViY J/pdNeeww==; Original-Received: from mail.fsf.org ([2001:470:142::13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qDpPX-0002bF-Mv; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:49:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fsf.org; s=mail-fsf-org; h=MIME-Version:In-reply-to:Date:Subject:To:From:References; bh=eO79Od4RxeeIBKrcUUVm8wGHcqitLYqi9HrrDMl+zPQ=; b=1Jlm6lj7GYC/wwmCsuL9eiSgh yYPggm056oDGiq1l5XEZoeREiCCxGyma/e7KKtWe4eMyVS9vq2nbH59XH3l2Y/T6YjR2X3x4hmcKQ cv4/5zF/Bjk3ZypPZ3qu3CdyFwmqEozEo/JJJywxWPLfBg7Ocv3d9RLFo2vYKYqVXxD/JX76zzMEB KInO4lKGbHMBbZoH221jtd8A45Gg+vDxyyKW7Xmnz3Sx/Z1t5sxtA92bc/LUWMzdqfEvJALYuSl/A PbRTbrQixnvTu7SFJ5OkZuZPnbuGI5SAonF7q5G5cbodeMhalfXIiGNGTIpdg/NZjt88jrNRDD//3 3VZ2D74zg==; In-reply-to: <87mt0nktkv.fsf@thaodan.de> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 13:13:12 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307240 Archived-At: Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar writes: > Corwin Brust writes: > > R> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 9:25=E2=80=AFPM Richard Stallman = wrote: >>> >>> This is not a useful place to have a discussion about that, >>> but I don't know what list might be a good place for it. Sorry. >> >> Speaking from a savannah standpoint, there is no (public) mailing list >> for FSF/GNU infrastructure discussion, at the moment. >> >> Please write to mailman@gnu.org as the official place to contact >> mailman admins. This will also reach the GNU vols and FSF sys admins >> who need to be kept in the loop as changes are made. > > Ok I will summarize my point to them and cc the list. > > In this thread we got sidetracked and talked about improving the > accessibility of contributing to Emacs (and thous all Gnu projects in > this case). > > Gnu still uses Mailman2 which uses Python2 which is EOL. > > Is there a plan to upgrade to Mailman3? Doing so and also enabling > Hyperkitty could help the accessibility because of a more modern ui that > helps people on different screen resolutions and less familiarity of > using email. Yes, we, the FSF tech team, plan to upgrade to Mialman 3 this year. And also deploy https://public-inbox.org/README.html. We are open to volunteer help. https://www.fsf.org/volunteer links to https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:FSF:Tech_Team_Volunteers --=20 Ian Kelling | Senior Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: B125 F60B 7B28 7FF6 A2B7 DF8F 170A F0E2 9542 95DF https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org