From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: symbol `keymap' in a keymap Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 04:24:55 +0200 Message-ID: <87il8cgolk.fsf@web.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39948"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Shynur Xie Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 15 04:25:53 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qgyWm-000ADY-Lz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2023 04:25:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgyW4-0004l3-Nj; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 22:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgyW3-0004kp-52 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 22:25:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgyW1-0004OU-Dz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 22:25:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1694744697; x=1695349497; i=michael_heerdegen@web.de; bh=W435EPMK+q6gEV1qs2VL57SKJxUeeOIe7Ep/IiB9N20=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=aU2taGTGuQzwo3vmGMIUrlHTL5xSCxxTw7zq3rdDEuSPYTd/Jg+xsfkgq9ejmFdedcs8pKwOltj tuptQ9BklnoKDw47GjwG6o/DsPlDQzD4Q5eLaXi5fOeuy2pBggLH6bPwiPtUDG/bRSzRs4jTMLM74 rNWz1q0kMstm8p27wMopzLnMkvWIrtGPyQ5HKsX7ZLgW2wPc44mpRgcdMa8JLe5j1CEwnLFP4HE4I +In7zr6mPgip4WDd7gcbZsUWaxnCX+Fn34L/iTXIf/F9h4gJl5TRXQaeSrALeBMFCM265PwFyVUfW OXUTFQW9l+DzfgARJ43eXZKh/IfgBEgnEbHA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.66.201.191]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb105 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M9Za2-1qmUou480K-005W9Y; Fri, 15 Sep 2023 04:24:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Shynur Xie's message of "Wed, 13 Sep 2023 12:48:10 +0000") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:/c6lT7Vv3yOm3d6fzD+HVBJZyVJjD5eLYazMihnbAxSseu/gFpM rf8Fzjf1QzToJFpLzSNXA98d7Ml0ogktJdHuKm3WNEqZbJ8egxnvinxDQkDDZ7IbqyoS2nx vCWpHQ8Hpc6xu3Xe+QHIfvS8VkA1NfEqkS6jSxJNOg1urXgNT3nWHw/dPfFIT1hlmdUqt1h uK5oyO6FSebfl92uKkeGQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:croin+K/lEA=;w+xyFgH+XDIByjymp8HRtoPc9TZ wj1W66VtYOkdgoHbkbBO+jzSwOLE7yYjJ3LZAmn1GCqslUAdkcY8dW4f0q/DsgSMXHSP7boik fmVisRFz+MOuTi43kA52Ee/PfPXX05kQOPxUMGm9qB32sQfKDCut4xNS2R2bMGQSVxaJRji5E aItA0vo3eQYfrZJvOnQrgjS1Rf7R32r1sJL7OX6fuISZZfpx44mSzPXwQ2zEqVlEEXUu8Crdz zc9XYf2GSdufGTVSerB+eyHzpCLIw6X28fHWYaSYAZ8iyULVtd6yMobFlH4OdDYLtTg2bjfEx RyNP4UJIfkJwjDEgFzmlbeITqcGW194+1K/IEr33FH9jT8yLtV0ZCfeNIZALoGE4wfgKkYALE Dov5M2qIS5BOeN2k38G/W7A8r7yL82wyZUkndH5gAqZNTezyhiPd/tAPKZ8acTBYW3kS2KAvd yOSacnMkXLOf7bBppALEf2K8zxQHaBOX+4APUcGlGzgIAu5Cf51c6gcOGd0sKumYI7Znj0KS7 bylF/fJilYBf8ItOkw0XBTdzFuB7BW6RIU52u0DZOhliH62ui3Axgsfd2YYgK8ZpGJn+C7N9l xhs6+t6ZZalucZxq96E3NBNV6umTA+cGcJ/hoW3jJo5/9HpZGJ2IubPAaaRWDVce9NX0lWMF1 CaVqGOHYqStNwkGToAsXxGURLSXvz67O29fmmmECGTP0Jo13l5PbJOjaiRv8vdfVI9n2um1PO EYWOR9CaCzJyvqcQX0CKYawd4H9Tp2wVmmLRNFNlVpZ55OeTSMSdlw3P5enbV5q87zF/TxRj Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.72.192.78; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145127 Archived-At: Shynur Xie writes: > I noticed that the value of `lisp-mode-map' is > > (keymap > (menu-bar ...) > ... > keymap ; <- > ...) > > According to the first quote, I thought the 2nd `keymap' is a keymap, > so I tried > > (symbol-function 'keymap) > > but the result is `nil', which means it's not a keymap. No, that's the wrong direction to search for an answer. You see the above when a keymap has a parent keymap - see (info "(elisp) Inheritance and Keymaps"). Michael.