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From: Jens Schmidt via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: 66050@debbugs.gnu.org, "Harald Jörg" <haj@posteo.de>,
	"Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#66050: Making perl-mode.el obsolete
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:34:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87il88vjvd.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkm=2QseuH91ZBP0tCiitHYy_cVjWJCm6KLDnib_+anSkDg@mail.gmail.com> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sun, 17 Sep 2023 05:47:49 -0700")

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> writes:

> I don't think it makes sense for us to spend our meager resources
> maintaining two major modes for Perl.  I would like to gauge what people
> think about obsoleting perl-mode.el.

There has been a thread on emacs-devel recently on that:

  https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/16da6ae7-66d8-fc43-cb84-6d104d3a2ef8@mavit.org.uk/

plus my opinion:

  https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/4d18a051-07d5-fba7-1c36-ae2eb72bf71c@vodafonemail.de/

which still holds.

But I can see your points, of course.

cperl-mode already has some big-config-sweep-knobs, like it seems
(`cperl-hairy').  It would certainly be nice to also have some
"make-things-work-like-in-perl-mode-but-sans-its-bugs" knob if it came
to obsoleting perl-mode.  For me, the most important things to cover
here would be a nearly-identical look-and-feel for indentation and
syntax highlighting.

One could even imagine to flip that knob automatically when `cperl-mode'
gets started as `perl-mode'.

> - Instead of maintaining perl-mode.el, I'd rather see that people worked
>   on a new perl-ts-mode.el.  From a web search, more than one treesitter
>   grammar exist; I have no idea which one is the most promising or how
>   mature any of them are.

+1, with the same restrictions on indentation and syntax highlighting.
After 25+ years of using one mode you just get so used to its
look-and-feel.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-17 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-17 12:47 bug#66050: Making perl-mode.el obsolete Stefan Kangas
2023-09-17 16:34 ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-09-17 18:20   ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-17 20:59     ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-22  7:39       ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-24  0:02       ` Harald Jörg
2023-09-24 15:58         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-24 21:29           ` Harald Jörg
2023-09-24 22:12             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-25  9:18               ` Harald Jörg
2023-09-25 10:09                 ` Mauro Aranda
2023-09-25 10:34                   ` Harald Jörg
2023-09-18 14:11 ` Corwin Brust
2023-09-20 18:34   ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-20 23:26     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-21  0:08       ` Corwin Brust
2023-09-21  0:16         ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-21  0:37           ` Corwin Brust
2023-09-21  0:49             ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-21 14:13           ` Mauro Aranda
2023-09-21 14:20             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-21 20:14               ` Mauro Aranda
2023-09-24  5:30                 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-24 22:21             ` Harald Jörg
2023-09-24 22:40               ` Mauro Aranda
2023-09-25  8:33                 ` Harald Jörg
2023-09-25 13:04                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-24 22:54               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-25  8:40                 ` Harald Jörg
2023-09-18 16:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-24  0:44   ` Harald Jörg
2023-09-24  7:31     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-24 16:01       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-26  9:02       ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-23 22:13 ` Harald Jörg
2023-09-24 10:41   ` Stefan Kangas

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