From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2024 21:29:08 +0000 Message-ID: <87il43y0nv.fsf@localhost> References: <875y0i7e43.fsf@hoowl.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23182"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Kangas , philipk@posteo.net, hanno@hoowl.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 08 22:27:14 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rMx9O-0005qG-K8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:27:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMx8X-0002lp-1U; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:26:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMx8P-0002ix-B8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:26:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMx8G-0006le-JU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:26:09 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8245F240028 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2024 22:26:01 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1704749161; bh=TKOaTUBKl9sZlkHS9R5r4tLogmaolWsMhFSxBDAZ/bM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=Yaysqh7jQ0xfybh4lbKIJPDpAnc8sXrRrWD57qgao3pMNdsj2ekPWO/ScAvj7iDK3 MfzNIjMWSC2T5K1FJWiI4DYRD5aYJKjYf/LpTS7pO4abGTqitFSYCCzl5UOpvmXXUR xycRl2po77bz+7lWLqIvuJ67z2DGqIVE0IoCJBipD5hRwQ5MHqCaZ2FYe0cQFCC2uv yfRXSp6r+XgYGRckveY0b+GM6Uu4tXMZLxQxKuC+BjZ9qPV1sPo9yn/fkoTmOJQLtU VOYhc9pMSG1n8nTG+KJvhDJLZLVUMKP62VTflktwTUNiXJVUaalv5lNUo2JQRkruqg REC0Zv0JyKx5A== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4T86Yh1YDZz9rxG; Mon, 8 Jan 2024 22:25:59 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314760 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Please do install jami-bit, but DO NOT install org-jami-bot without > some changes. Before that is installed, it needs to be changed not to > require or presuppose Org format. org-jami-bot's description is the following: Capture GNU Jami messages as notes and todos in Org mode ... `org-jami-bot' builds upon `jami-bot' and extends it with Org mode capture ;; functionality for text messages and images. It allows to schedule agenda ;; items at specific dates, compose multi-measure captures and capture images -- ;; all by sending a message via the GNU Jami messenger. In other words, org-jami-bot package is an integration of jami-bot with org-capture API. Its name clearly indicates that it has something to do with Org mode. > We have not adopted Org format as the standard Emacs format for text, > because it would not be adequate for that. Designing additional > packages to impose the use of Org format, even though they have > nothing to do with Org, pushes Emacs in a direction that is not a good > design. I am not sure what is the problem you are trying to avoid, but I hope that you did not imply that packages that provide integration with Org mode are not allowed on ELPA. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at