From: Jeremy Bryant <jb@jeremybryant.net>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2024 11:46:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87il357om2.fsf@jeremybryant.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB548836A2924114DBA0D83F5BF3422@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
> +1 to all of that.
> ___
>
> The most important aid for users - esp. but not
> only new users - is IMHO for them to learn how
> to better "ask Emacs". Emacs provides lots of
> ways to discover and find things, from the most
> common or superficial things (help keys, menus)
> to those deepest in its belly (Lisp, C).
>
> That fact isn't obvious to new users, and even
> old users can benefit from being reminded of it.
> Learning better how to ask Emacs is always
> possible, regardless of level of familiarity or
> years of use.
> ___
>
> Every top-level, superficially obvious point of
> entry could help pass the message to a user to
> help yourself by learning better how to "ask
> Emacs". Top-level entry points can include
> toolbar, menu-bar Help menu, splash screen,
> `C-h t' tutorial,...
> ___
>
> [ Maybe even every *Help* buffer could have a
> link (the same one-line link) to a manual
> entry or to some other presentation of info
> about asking Emacs (i.e., finding things).
>
> Perhaps with an added boost from AI-thingies,
> such a link could be *Help*-context sensitive.
>
> And perhaps (with AI) some actions that users
> take could (optionally) sometimes be followed
> by a popup tip about a handy (maybe quicker)
> way to ask Emacs about something they seem to
> be looking for or not be aware of. ]
How about discoverability regular reminders being a user-option (called something like
discoverability-help-buffer), available to new and veteran users alike?
This would make the *Help* buffers bigger but with useful reminders such
as C-h S info-lookup-symbol to jump to the manual etc, and can be turned
off at will?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-03 11:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-31 23:23 discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-01 2:45 ` Po Lu
2024-02-03 13:40 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-04 22:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-05 7:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-05 15:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-05 18:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-05 19:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-05 19:33 ` Justin Burkett
2024-02-05 23:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-06 2:49 ` Justin Burkett
2024-02-06 23:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-07 12:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-07 18:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-07 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-07 19:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 1:46 ` Visuwesh
2024-02-08 6:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 12:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 13:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 14:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 16:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11 2:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11 2:39 ` Po Lu
2024-02-11 12:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11 6:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-11 12:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-11 20:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 13:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:51 ` Rebinding Fn [Re: discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs] Alan Mackenzie
2024-02-08 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 14:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-02-08 13:25 ` discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs Po Lu
2024-02-08 13:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-01 7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-01 21:16 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-02 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 7:00 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-02 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 15:25 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-02 15:53 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-02 16:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-03 11:46 ` Jeremy Bryant [this message]
2024-02-03 11:39 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 14:07 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-04 22:18 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-05 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 11:30 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 11:36 ` Moving which-key ELPA package into core - " Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 16:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-04 22:12 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-04 23:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-01 21:17 ` orzodk
2024-02-01 22:24 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-01 23:49 ` orzodk
2024-02-02 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 16:00 ` Howard Melman
2024-02-02 19:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 19:32 ` tomas
2024-02-02 20:16 ` Howard Melman
2024-02-03 7:25 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-03 8:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 16:58 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-04 22:25 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-04 22:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-05 3:40 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-04 23:47 ` Drew Adams
2024-02-05 1:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-05 3:52 ` Divya Ranjan
2024-02-05 15:04 ` Drew Adams
2024-02-04 18:34 ` Howard Melman
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