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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322428 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ihor Radchenko writes: > "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes: > >> As a counter-point: An example of a higher level of abstraction is the >> org-mode API. But thinking back how long it took me to get that to >> actually do what I needed, I doubt that that=E2=80=99s the model I want = for most >> packages. But I agree that without this, what I wrote would have been >> more brittle. ... > > May you elaborate a bit on the problems with Org mode API? I use it to gather all entries for a kanban table and it took me a long time to understand the match and scope and to find what exactly I get from org-map-entries,=C2=B9 how to get the filtering and scope right, and h= ow to post-process the elemets.=C2=B2 And it=E2=80=99s not efficient, because org-map-entries actually gives me f= ar more than what I need =E2=80=94 what I=E2=80=99d actually need is to get th= e nth org element matching match and scope for which the passed function does not return nil. (the linked code is the result of a lot of tinkering) Best wishes, Arne =C2=B9 https://hg.sr.ht/~arnebab/kanban.el/browse/kanban.el?rev=3D29a36f508= ffc#L192 =C2=B2 https://hg.sr.ht/~arnebab/kanban.el/browse/kanban.el?rev=3D29a36f508= ffc#L142 =2D-=20 Unpolitisch sein hei=C3=9Ft politisch sein, ohne es zu merken. draketo.de --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJEBAEBCAAuFiEE801qEjXQSQPNItXAE++NRSQDw+sFAmax3YwQHGFybmVfYmFi QHdlYi5kZQAKCRAT741FJAPD6zs+EACsimU6Ah8nsuGi44eoENDudAI3mDDhgvef 81Jc7G3NVlh2A/3QFG4cpHhL+W8w9yt4uXjWaJjD6QBbioBQGxuglwHqouJ9T7fF Clg2uJjPdod0tPJCO/iR1/MNu+9z25lkElpvhCGvZzMbKNtYmHIGn9PWpGYR+Ii5 r4I6EhLUt6asImZdEKrhvScNIRmFxxurSaDGgK+QlhB6gSs4cA6aegSAT2U8SxeF GTMp90jzEEsXhXohmBNK/MFfPmBjhEpHt3K3j2Y8wyKarmv/wxTugeLXOrO+L66O yfrwSS98JAd/X8iO5RyPI4BVysMVwgRNIhlfIn/sogLFybCoS2/ElDdneVDePjGz mixw4amtQOhZFqWvWhhWiJz+BOd9xX6+SjToH1kjqLsecvgMIZpWeeB5ASAkLF40 64nyLge7Cj/zR0kI0kOFYhDy86l9Vd+982wcq+xWQfFqtHXV85jYOS6b0v83cYt6 JekONPsZORu0afmTDCW5F5t5zz8K0W8+asWskf4iLcyY4q0OcW5WrHKyRqATWskR MjMWyJ0Q0S8DL64OBQ1jqGyJ7trCHQa2TeaaYKj0cUzL2mXYu82ZG+wB3lbzFwUj 1x59Yr1RikFXyW/bpt4C4y/z8BjBNG2Oo4JZO3OKVFIIgQc6Ocbgoag0qIzvKMu/ cOZJIGoEdojEBAEBCAAuFiEE3Si95tmHXKvOSosd3M8NswvBBUgFAmax3YwQHGFy bmVfYmFiQHdlYi5kZQAKCRDczw2zC8EFSNCsA/wIufEgM+Q/GmJQ3jsgo1nofN1x xYuEfP2mhT2/u5HzssrE1Tit3Cev+RYdk1ppj2VidXA0vT4f6D4Rk6bE0GSA/FaW /l5nAvHIxQMA1NKZI5pqKJh6P5kUL9LWlLL6c7gDhL9P/Zl+El4GghUK+9Xu3itp IAH0ILywrww7NHnnIw== =1yFk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--