From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs unconditionally loads tramp.el Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 06:26:59 +0200 Message-ID: <87hd4ewcj0.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87r73n5o5x.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <87iroz5g0z.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <87u08iyd2r.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1146198439 15722 80.91.229.2 (28 Apr 2006 04:27:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 04:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: romain@orebokech.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 28 06:27:14 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZKZU-0006f8-JQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 06:27:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZKZU-00028O-27 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:27:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FZKZI-00028H-UF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:27:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FZKZH-00027d-Ie for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:27:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZKZH-00027a-BX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:26:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZKcK-0005S5-NO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:30:09 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Apr 2006 04:26:57 -0000 Original-Received: from p54BD9C2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO localhost.local) [84.189.156.43] by mail.gmx.net (mp043) with SMTP; 28 Apr 2006 06:26:57 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3708877 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:56:41 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110005 (No Gnus v0.5) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:53534 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > There's still the remaining issue whether it is _desired_ to load tramp > on ordinary file name completion. > > I do not understand the question. Would you please show me the precise > scenario in which you propose Tramp should be loaded? "/" matches `tramp-completion-file-name-regexp'. Any single (expand-file-name "/") loads Tramp after my recent changes. That's not new, because it's a similar story with Emacs 21 and `ange-ftp-completion-hook-function'. The only difference is that Ange-FTP is loaded only for `file-name-completion´, whereas Tramp is loaded in more cases. I was thinking about a customer option, which let's the user decide whether (s)he wants Tramp hostname completion. If decided for NO, Tramp would be loaded only when a remote file is requested. Best regards, Michael.