From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: All widgets except the scroll bar uses GTK? Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:13:02 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87hczp6w5d.fsf@hans.local.net> References: <1157191803.574419.81400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <85mz9iwkk7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87lkp26no3.fsf@hans.local.net> <85wt8l30wz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157320836 6344 80.91.229.2 (3 Sep 2006 22:00:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 04 00:00:34 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GK011-0001jj-HN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:00:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GK011-0004hk-4P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:00:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GK00o-0004hA-CC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:00:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GK00l-0004gy-Rp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:00:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GK00l-0004gr-Kt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:00:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.227.126.177] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GK0B8-0005wg-9F; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:10:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.167.67.53] (helo=duenenhof-wilhelm.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKxQS-1GK00j1Xq4-0005lq; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:00:13 +0200 Original-Received: by duenenhof-wilhelm.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BABCE6B5CF; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:13:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: <85wt8l30wz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:43:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:d7ab225b98a136e1c2910381f940ecb9 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:37139 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Dieter Wilhelm writes: > >> David Kastrup writes: >> >>> >>> I think --with-toolkit-scroll-bars is the the default. I know that I >>> had to explicitly override this default in the past, since I don't >>> like the stupid completely unergonomic GTK+ default scrollbar (you >>> can't switch forward and backward direction without moving the mouse, >> >> Maybe I only know GTK scroll bars (under Emacs), could you please >> explain how to switch between the directions without moving the >> mouse? > > Left mouse button scrolls forward, right mouse button backward. > Regardless where the current position of the "slider" is. > >>> you can't scroll through a complete file without needing to reseat the >>> mouse in between, you can't control the scroll amount). >> >> You mean that one can more precisely control the amount of scrolling >> with respect to how far on clicks away from the tool bar handle? > > No, nothing to do with the handle (there is none): that would require > reseating the mouse during a scrolling action. > > No, the scrolling size is controlled by the vertical position of the > click: a click with the left mouse button moves the line where the > click occured to the top of the screen. A click with the right button > moves the top of the screen down to where the click occured. I've never seen these functionalities, I must conclude that without additional ./configure options (as you've mentioned) one gets the toolkit scroll bars. Thank you for the hint. -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany