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From: michael@cadilhac.name (Michaël Cadilhac)
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: defcustom and the stars.
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:28:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hcv6k2vs.fsf@lrde.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: EIENLHALHGIMHGDOLMIMEEAKCOAA.drew.adams@oracle.com


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Hi Drew!

Please, do not remove me from the list of Cc as I don't scrupulously
read Emacs Devel usually.

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>>     + 	      ;; If DOC starts with a `*' remove it.
>>     + 	      (when (eq (aref doc 0) ?*)
>>     + 		(setq doc (substring doc 1)))
>>
>> might be ok, but I am not sure it is really right -- it seems
>> like a hard question.  So I would rather leave this alone, for now.
>
> Yes. Here is a doc string I have, for instance.
>
>  "**Completions* window is removed if fewer chars than this are input."

I don't see your point.  Maybe this has been discussed with Juanma, but
what's the harm removing the first * ?

> Why not just leave any extra `*' there?

Because it's confusing and somewhat useless for the user.

>> Again, it is with the previous patch.  With it, not only « You can
>> customize the variable » can appear, but also « You can change at user
>> level the variable », which means that you can M-x set-var this var.
>
> If that's what you mean, then that's what should be said: "You can use
> command `set-variable' to change the value". This is confusing: "change at
> user level".

> "You can change at user level" doesn't teach anything. It says less (because
> it is confusing) than just "You can change this variable" (with a link on
> "change").

« You can change this variable » can lead the user to think that the
only variables s?he can change are those ones, whereas `setq' can
change nearly everything. But I do agree that « at user level » is
confusing.

What about « You can change this variable using `set-variable' » with
a link on « change » ?

It would show up as:

,----[ C-h v show-paren-highlight-openparen RET ]
| show-paren-highlight-openparen is a variable defined in `paren.el'.
| Its value is t
| 
| 
| Documentation:
| Non-nil turns on openparen highlighting when matching forward.
| 
| You can change this variable using `set-variable'.
`----

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-04 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-02 22:00 defcustom and the stars Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03  3:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-03 11:05   ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 12:24     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 12:49       ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 13:08         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 13:18           ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 13:29             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 13:43               ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 13:57                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 14:52                   ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 18:47                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 20:57                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 21:21                       ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 21:26                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-04  2:31                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04  2:31                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04  7:34                       ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-04 17:08                         ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 19:28                           ` Michaël Cadilhac [this message]
2007-01-04 22:13                             ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 22:50                               ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-04 22:58                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-01-08 17:51                                   ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-08 18:09                                     ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-08 18:32                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-01-08 18:46                                         ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-08 20:50                                           ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09  4:21                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-01-09 18:32                                               ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09 22:56                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-01-10 15:15                                                   ` Chris Moore
2007-01-10 16:19                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-01-10 18:44                                                       ` Chris Moore
2007-01-10 18:47                                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-01-08 18:26                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-01-05  6:36                               ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-05 15:15                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 22:33                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-03 18:17           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-03 18:34             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-04  2:32     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04 16:57       ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 17:10         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-04 17:16           ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 17:39             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-04 18:22               ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 19:30                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-04 22:32                   ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 22:49                     ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 23:12                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-05  1:01                       ` Drew Adams
2007-01-05  1:09                         ` Juanma Barranquero

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