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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: herring@lanl.gov
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A few questions about desktop.el
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:31:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hcpg7r2n.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54274.128.165.0.81.1181350302.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> (Davis Herring's message of "Fri\, 8 Jun 2007 17\:51\:42 -0700 \(PDT\)")

>> I have in .emacs
>>     (run-at-time 3600 3600 'desktop-save "~")
>> so desktop-save silently saves the desktop every hour.
>>
>> Does you patch cause a problem by asking questions about file locks
>> inside such a timer?
>
> Er, I'm guessing it does... it certainly doesn't check to see if it's
> being run in a less than interactive fashion.  (How does one even do that?
>  Either of the standard interactive checks?)  But the real question is
> what would you want it to do there instead of ask?
>
>  - Is this sort of call supposed to automatically get priority and steal
> locks and such?  If so, what happens when two Emacs instances run this
> timer (as in interleaved, not even simultaneously)?

Overwriting the desktop of another Emacs instance is not a good thing to do.

>  - Alternatively, is it supposed to always fail if a clash is detected?

Not writing the desktop would be acceptable if it displayed a message
about this failure.

>  - Or should there be entirely different heuristics...?

Another alternative is to write the desktop file with a different name.

> I guess I should note (partly just to give this message more than one
> declarative sentence) that if you don't save the desktop from another
> Emacs (even if you start one and re-use this autosaved desktop), it won't
> prompt the next time the timer runs.  So if you actually "respect" the
> clash detection and don't create a conflicting desktop, there won't be a
> problem.

All on all, we could leave this to the user's discretion.  The user should be
careful about not creating a configuration where two Emacs instances
automatically write to the same file.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-09 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-22  2:42 A few questions about desktop.el Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-22 10:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-22 22:52   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-26  8:56     ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-27 14:03       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-27 14:28         ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-28  3:20           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-28  7:34             ` David Kastrup
2005-07-28 12:51               ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-29  0:11               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-28  3:20           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-29  0:37             ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-28  4:24           ` Masatake YAMATO
2006-04-27 23:05           ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-04-28 14:56             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-04-29  4:57               ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-04-30  1:16                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-05-02 15:06                   ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-05-02 15:14                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-05-02 15:42                       ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-05-02 17:57                         ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-04-28 15:44             ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-29  5:02               ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-04-30  3:03                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-03 12:48               ` Juri Linkov
2006-05-03 14:37                 ` Lars Hansen
2006-05-03 20:43                   ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-04 16:27                   ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-05-05  6:44                     ` Lars Hansen
2007-06-05  9:24                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-08 21:17                       ` Davis Herring
2007-06-08 21:29                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-08 22:05                           ` Davis Herring
2007-06-08 22:14                         ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-09  0:51                           ` Davis Herring
2007-06-09 21:31                             ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2007-06-10 23:28                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-11 20:54                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-12 11:21                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-05-04 16:17                 ` Stuart D. Herring
2005-08-08 15:02   ` Lars Hansen
2005-07-22 13:50 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-22 14:36   ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-26  8:27     ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-08 15:04     ` Lars Hansen
2005-07-22 19:11 ` Lars Hansen
2005-07-22 21:24   ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-22 22:50 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-26  9:11   ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-27 14:04     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-27 14:16       ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-28  3:20         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-29  0:44           ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-10  9:50         ` Lars Hansen
2005-08-10 11:24           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-02-09 16:30             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-02-09 20:00               ` Lars Hansen
2006-02-09 21:11               ` Lars Hansen
2006-02-09 23:46                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-10 22:05           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-10 23:45             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-11  1:12               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-11  1:36                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-11  3:01                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-11  6:12                   ` Lars Hansen
2005-08-08 14:51 ` Lars Hansen
2005-08-08 18:35   ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-09  7:12     ` Lars Hansen
2005-08-09  7:36       ` Lars Hansen
2005-08-09  8:49       ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-09  9:31         ` David Kastrup
2005-08-09  9:59           ` Juanma Barranquero

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