From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Manoj Srivastava Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79403 Archived-At: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:35:58 +0200, David Kastrup said: > Manoj Srivastava writes: >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:16:16 +0200, Kim F Storm said: >> >>> AFAICS, the only thing we can do to prevent that is to find a >>> reasonably non-annoying way to "say what we want to say". >> >> I am not sure I understand this viewpoint. I have been using Emacs >> since '88, so I am pretty "seasoned" -- but I don't seem to see the >> issue you are raising; and I am wondering if we are looking at the >> same thing. > Just to make sure we are: we are talking about the case where Emacs is > called with explicit file names given on the command line and instead > of displaying those files displays the splash screen. >> What I saw was a splash screen -- but it came with a nice _dismiss_ >> button, and even a checkbox that said "don't show this again". This >> is not much of an annoyance -- since it only ever appears once, > Per session. Hmm. I am seeing two different behaviours here, which might be the cause of some confusion. When I just call: % emacs /tmp/foo.sh I get a split screen; the top half has a splash screen, with these lines at the bottom: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- If an Emacs session crashed recently, type Meta-x recover-session RET to recover the files you were editing. Dismiss [] Don't show this message again. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The bottom half has the /tmp/foo.sh buffer. I imagine that if I check the box, and then it dismiss, I'll never see the splash again. Now, if I start emacs -nw, % emacs -nw /tmp/bar.sh I am still getting the split again, except that there does not seem to be a dismiss button, nor is there a checkbox. So, I find the X based splash screen not to be an annoyance; but I do find the emacs -nw splash screen deficient. This is the latest CVS emacs in Miles Bader's GNU/Arch mirror. Is this the behaviour you see? >> As someone who has influence with one of the much despised GNU/Linux >> distribution makers, I can say your fears are somewhat overblown. > As long as we are talking about the same thing. Are we? Well, I think turning off the splash screen for Debian is not something that will happen very readily. manoj -- On-line, adj.: The idea that a human being should always be accessible to a computer. Manoj Srivastava 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C