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From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: recenter-top-bottom
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:15:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hcjr1u6o.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACIEMACEAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:50:45 -0800")

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> So I think your first suggestion is better, and I am still thinking
>> of maybe installing it. If people are very enthusiastic about
>> your second suggestion, I will say yes to it.
>
> Just to make it easier for people who might want to try both and compare,
> here again are the two definitions. Each is a possible alternative binding
> for `C-l'. (I've added the `scroll-conservatively' feature to #1, as well as
> #2.)

Thanks for summing up.

Another problem with #2 is this: if the window height is 60 and the
point is at 19, people might not be *sure* that the point is in the
first third of the window.  Pressing C-l will then put the point at the
bottom, while there were expecting it to jump on the top.  Note that in
this case, C-l will do the exact *opposite* of what they want, which is
not only surprising, but rather disappointing!

Relying on the fact that user is able to spot the position of the point
very precisely is not a good thing, especially for large windows, and
especially when the point is between two thirds, where it is the more
difficult to evaluate the position visually.

In fact, I often use C-l to spare me the cost of being sure where the
point is.  

-- 
Bastien

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-12 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-07 13:16 recenter-top-bottom Alan Mackenzie_JWA
2007-11-07 14:09 ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-08  4:42 ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-11 20:16 ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-11 21:47   ` recenter-top-bottom Juri Linkov
2007-11-11 22:38     ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-11 22:59       ` recenter-top-bottom Juri Linkov
2007-11-11 23:06         ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-12  0:12         ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-11 23:56           ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-12  4:56             ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-12  8:33               ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-12 13:01                 ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-12 13:06                   ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-12 12:06             ` recenter-top-bottom Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-12 13:05               ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-12  5:59   ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-12  7:17     ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-12  8:34     ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-12  8:50       ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-12 13:15         ` Bastien [this message]
2007-11-12 21:57       ` recenter-top-bottom Juri Linkov
2007-11-12 23:00         ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-13 13:35           ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-13  5:10       ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-14 21:57         ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-14 22:07           ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-14 22:51           ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-14 23:51           ` recenter-top-bottom Juri Linkov
2007-11-15  0:23             ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-15  0:58             ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-15  8:36               ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-15 13:07           ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-15 15:16           ` recenter-top-bottom Stefan Monnier
2007-11-15 15:52             ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-16  4:29             ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-16 18:51               ` recenter-top-bottom Stefan Monnier
2007-12-01 13:55             ` recenter-top-bottom Johan Bockgård
2007-12-01 14:28               ` recenter-top-bottom Leo
2007-12-01 15:48                 ` recenter-top-bottom Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-01 18:33                   ` recenter-top-bottom Leo
2007-12-01 21:07                     ` recenter-top-bottom Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-01 23:41                 ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-12-01 16:22               ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-12-01 23:41                 ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-12-02  0:48                   ` scroll-conservatively default (was: Re: recenter-top-bottom) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-12-02  1:21                     ` scroll-conservatively default Johan Bockgård
2007-12-02  3:58                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-02  4:52                         ` Drew Adams
2007-12-03 21:20                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-12-04  4:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04  7:25                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-12-04 21:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-05  4:29                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-12-05  2:57                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-05  4:32                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-12-04  9:28                           ` Leo
2007-12-04 21:14                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-06  7:49                             ` Miles Bader
2007-12-06 11:10                               ` David Kastrup
2007-12-06 11:36                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-12-06 21:43                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-07  9:46                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2007-12-06 21:14                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-06 22:13                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-12-07  3:01                                   ` Miles Bader
2007-12-02  0:47                 ` recenter-top-bottom Johan Bockgård
2007-12-02  4:53                   ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
     [not found] <OF7E920891.667E3D64-ONC125738C.0058D24D-C125738C.00587C7B@philips.com>
2007-11-07 17:24 ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-07 20:44   ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-07 21:54     ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-08 17:39     ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-06 16:53 recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-06 17:02 ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-07  7:55 ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-07  9:25   ` recenter-top-bottom Tassilo Horn
2007-11-08  0:41 ` recenter-top-bottom Juri Linkov
2007-11-11  8:27 ` recenter-top-bottom Alan Mackenzie
2007-11-11 23:54   ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman

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