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From: Dave Goel <deego3@gmail.com>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, deego3@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: Fixing numerous `message' bugs..
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:00:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hciugzal.fsf@marie.gnufans.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85fxyel8o8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Fri,  07 Dec 2007 18:24:39 +0100")


>
>> Here's an idea: make up an argument to `message' that says treat the
>> next argument literally.  How about t?
>>
>>    (message t STRING) is equivalent to (message "%s" STRING)
>>    (message t nil) is equivalent to (message nil)
>>
>> So in the cases that are buggy it suffices to add t as the first argument.

The above is the neatest idea so far.  It does not involve a new
function, and makes fixing code really easy.  And, any author that desires
a literal treatment can simply use (message t string).

> I don't particularly like it.  What about (message t nil 7), what is
> that supposed to return?  nil too? 

Sure, why not?  ((Or, it could return an error. ))

> Anyway, there is little point to make this specific to message.  So
> if at all, we would special-case format instead.  Which means that
> (stringp (format ...)) is no longer guaranteed to be true.


Can you elaborate?  Why should a `message' bug cause changes to
something as general as format?  And, how will that fix the problem at hand?

Besides, tweaking `format' will further our non-compatibility with
Common Lisp.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-07 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-06  0:14 Fixing numerous `message' bugs D. Goel
2007-12-06 10:56 ` David Kastrup
2007-12-06 14:36   ` Dave Goel
2007-12-06 19:26     ` Glenn Morris
2007-12-06 19:34       ` Dave Goel
2007-12-06 20:21       ` Johan Bockgård
2007-12-07  5:28         ` Glenn Morris
2007-12-07 15:52           ` Dave Goel
2007-12-06 15:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-12-06 16:01   ` Dave Goel
2007-12-06 16:49     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-12-06 16:58       ` David Kastrup
2007-12-06 17:19         ` David Kastrup
2007-12-07 17:17         ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-07 17:37           ` David Kastrup
2007-12-07 17:17         ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-07 17:18         ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-07 17:24           ` David Kastrup
2007-12-07 18:00             ` Dave Goel [this message]
2007-12-07 18:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-12-08  0:56                 ` Glenn Morris
2007-12-08  2:21                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-12-08 10:55                     ` David Kastrup
2007-12-08 19:15                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-10 17:41                   ` Dave Goel
2007-12-10 18:04                     ` Jason Rumney
2007-12-10 19:05                       ` Dave Goel
2007-12-10 19:56                         ` Andreas Schwab
2007-12-10 20:31                           ` Dave Goel
2007-12-10 21:19                             ` David Kastrup
2007-12-10 22:44                               ` Dave Goel
2007-12-10 23:02                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-12-08 19:15             ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-07 17:18 ` Richard Stallman

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