From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the new startup and scratch buffer Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:00:20 -0500 Message-ID: <87hcfrid17.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <47B319AD.3030804@alice.it> <87zlu4oi48.fsf@bar.jrock.us> <47B3320C.8060800@alice.it> <87ve4ip7g1.fsf@bar.jrock.us> <873arcvg86.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204326142 19005 80.91.229.12 (29 Feb 2008 23:02:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Sascha Wilde , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jonathan Rockway , Angelo Graziosi To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 01 00:02:48 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JVEFX-0001lr-HH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:02:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JVEF1-0005vS-4o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:02:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JVEEw-0005vM-Ne for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:02:06 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JVEEu-0005uj-SQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:02:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JVEEu-0005ue-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:02:04 -0500 Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu ([18.115.2.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JVEEu-0003b0-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:02:04 -0500 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8C8844E3F9; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:00:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <873arcvg86.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Fri\, 29 Feb 2008 01\:00\:41 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:90921 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >>>>> If people are interested in a change to this behavior (always add text >>>>> to *scratch* if initial-scratch-message isn't nil), I'll supply a patch. > > Installed on the trunk and the Emacs 22 branch. I'm not convinced that this change should go into Emacs 22. The reason is a little subtle. If you check the changelogs, inhibit-startup-screen used to be called inhibit-startup-message, and i-s-m is now an alias for i-s-s. With this change, people who've been using Emacs for a while and have inhibit-startup-message bound to nil in their init file (as I did) will encounter unexpected behavior. In other words, even though inhibit-startup-message is non-nil, there's a startup message! It's scarcely a serious issue---after all, Emacs progresses, and the meanings of variables change. All the same, this kind of incompatibility is best introduced between major versions.