From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: breadcrumbs for Info . . . . . . Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:43:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87hcbxd8t8.fsf@ambire.localdomain> References: <009d01c8cb55$13d53e20$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <87fxrkltma.fsf@jurta.org> <00ae01c8cb71$c26aeef0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <873ankqou6.fsf@jurta.org> <00d901c8cbc9$7df36fb0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <87tzfzk331.fsf@jurta.org> <00a501c8ccdd$93328720$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <002401c8cd1f$98631650$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213346793 27138 80.91.229.12 (13 Jun 2008 08:46:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 13 10:47:16 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K74wE-0006tn-Uv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:47:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43671 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K74vR-0008Cz-7X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:46:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K74vG-0008An-KH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:46:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K74vE-0008AF-R9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:46:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56739 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K74vE-0008AA-Lm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:46:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [151.61.143.184] (port=35640 helo=ambire.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K74vE-00040P-29 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:46:12 -0400 Original-Received: from ttn by ambire.localdomain with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K74sN-0001vE-Co; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:43:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <002401c8cd1f$98631650$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:34:55 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99078 Archived-At: () "Drew Adams" () Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:34:55 -0700 You can think of the breadcrumbs line as part of an extended header area. (And you might even want to remove the Up link from the header now, since it is no longer needed - the breadcrumbs subsume Up.) To me this says that breadcrumbs should be grafted onto Up, rather than being a separate feature. From user pov, the NEWS would not be: New Info sub-feature: breadcrumbs [...] but rather: New Info sub-feature: Info "Up" extension. MB3 on the "Up" link now displays a menu which lets you "navigate" (urgh) directly to an ancestor node of the current node. From the keyboard, there is a new command Info-skip-up, which queries you (w/ completion) for an ancestor node to jump to... [etc. The idea is that mouse or keyboard eventually do the same thing.] Bias note: personally, i dislike features that use screen space. If there is another line taken for breadcrumbs, i will find a way to remove it. thi