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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:29:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hcatzd4x.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85lk06mflj.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun,  13 Jul 2008 09:02:32 +0200")

> I am not sure about that: the most unfriendly thing an editor can do to
> a beginner is not allowing him to quit.  Now that's probably not an
> issue for the GUI startup screen since we have File/Exit Emacs on the
> menu.
>
> Actually, the next unfriendly thing is not allowing a user _not_ to
> quit.  I just tried
>
> C-h k M-F4
>
> and got the following result:
>
> Conspicuously absent in this plethora of answers is an option _not_ to
> quit (presumably "Cancel").  Closing the dialog window happens to
> achieve that, apparently, but it is not really obvious.

It seems C-g is supposed to be used to close the dialog window,
but this is not obvious either.

And the "Yes/No" answer is not a friendly thing too.  I once lost
changes in an unsaved file a long ago (not in Emacs) because after
closing the program to the question "Save file?" in a hurry I answered
"No" intending the meaning "No, I will save it later" :-)  I guess this
is the reason why instead of "Yes" and "No" many contemporary programs
display explicit unambiguous answers like "Save" and "Don't save".

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/




  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-13 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-27 19:37 minor suggestions for splash screen Drew Adams
2007-01-30 10:38 ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial (was: minor sugg...splash screen) Jason Spiro
2007-01-30 11:06   ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial David Kastrup
2007-01-30 11:23     ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-01-31 13:28       ` Mathias Dahl
2007-01-30 11:32     ` Jason Spiro
2007-01-31  4:00       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-31  8:18         ` Chris Moore
2007-01-30 20:26   ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial (was: minor sugg...splash screen) Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-30 20:49     ` Jason Spiro
2008-06-30 15:56     ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Jason Spiro
2008-07-06 21:57       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-12 22:21         ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  5:30           ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-13 21:33             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  7:02           ` David Kastrup
2008-07-13 21:29             ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2008-11-04  2:47         ` Please add a Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 18:15           ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-04 19:05             ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 19:42             ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 20:09               ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 20:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:27                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 21:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:03                       ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 22:07                         ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 22:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:38                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 22:09                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 22:37                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 23:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-05  4:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 20:46                 ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:19                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 21:37                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:26                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:34                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:44                       ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:25                 ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 21:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:44                     ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:30                         ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:04                   ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 23:10                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 23:56                       ` Davis Herring
2008-11-05  0:11                         ` Drew Adams
2008-11-05  0:06                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 23:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-04 23:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-04 18:23           ` Please add a Drew Adams

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