From: Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:08:25 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hc99gs3a.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.17478.1219622906.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
David Hansen <david.hansen@gmx.net> writes:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Xah wrote:
>
>> On Aug 24, 5:31 am, Nikolaj Schumacher <m...@nschum.de> wrote:
>>> Xah<xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Unix is the worst, they pretty much just allow
>>> > alphanumerics and not even space. If you have anything like “,=();
>>> > \'"~&-” etc, you can expect most shell tools to erase you disk)
>>>
>>> Actually unix systems allow pretty much every character except / and the
>>> null character.
>>
>> To say that unix allows much wider chars in file names is like saying
>> mud is the best medium for sculpture.
>>
>> Unix file names, for much of its history up to perhaps mid 2000s,
>> effectively just allows alphanumerics plus hyphen “-” and underscore
>> “_”.
I have to burst in here and simply state that I think that's
possibly the single least correct statement I've seen on
this newsgroup ever.
>>As a contrast for comparison, Mac's file names often contain
>> punctuations such as “,$#!*()” and space, but also allows non-ascii
>> such as
>
> In the early days of napster (around 2000) I downloaded an Asian pop
> song with a beep (^G) in the filename. That was on GNU/Linux. Yes,
> when I typed `ls' the xterm beeped.
Most linux setups I've seen have had ls sanitise its output
and filter out control characters. To examine what was filtered,
you could use ls -b to have them escaped instead.
> I think at least the Linux kernel never gave a f*** about the characters
> as long as it was no '/' or \0. Though it wasn't that easy to rename
> the files in this directory.
You think right. Xah perhaps doesn't know the difference
between an OS and a shell?
If in doubt, simply prefix filenames with './'. That declaws
practically everything.
Phil
--
The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the
point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-25 13:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-15 22:38 (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc? David Combs
2008-08-16 18:41 ` The Badger
[not found] ` <mailman.16876.1218850883.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-23 21:57 ` David Combs
2008-08-23 22:48 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-23 22:21 ` Xah
2008-08-24 12:31 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
[not found] ` <mailman.17461.1219581096.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-24 19:12 ` Xah
2008-08-25 0:02 ` David Hansen
2008-08-25 6:12 ` David Kastrup
2008-08-25 9:03 ` Xah
[not found] ` <mailman.17478.1219622906.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-25 13:08 ` Phil Carmody [this message]
2008-08-25 20:13 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
[not found] ` <mailman.17519.1219695209.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-26 8:42 ` Xah
2008-08-26 15:02 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
[not found] ` <mailman.17589.1219762958.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-26 17:03 ` Xah
2008-08-26 20:40 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
[not found] ` <mailman.17618.1219783235.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-26 21:54 ` Xah
2008-08-27 11:58 ` Bernardo Bacic
2008-08-27 14:05 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
[not found] ` <mailman.17666.1219838494.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-27 17:10 ` Xah
[not found] ` <mailman.17676.1219845916.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-27 17:34 ` Xah
2008-08-27 19:50 ` Cor Gest
2008-08-28 9:42 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
[not found] ` <mailman.17742.1219916570.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-28 10:13 ` Xah
2008-08-28 10:49 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-28 13:29 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
[not found] ` <mailman.17755.1219930152.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-29 2:23 ` Xah
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