From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul R Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs, oldsters, newbiness Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:40:46 +0100 Message-ID: <87hc6z6nmp.fsf@gmail.com> References: <251d6b72-b760-411b-8c35-83a7788e2491@u75g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <56aa1c42-303b-4150-8d96-9159487244e2@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com> <7343b66f-7262-466c-8975-9774dce22d88@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <7bddb878-9f4c-4140-827c-83cd29c96e5f@l77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <372adbcc-d97b-453c-8ddc-3a7f1abb0b23@l62g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <87tzb26y7p.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225057300 24737 80.91.229.12 (26 Oct 2008 21:41:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Alex Schroeder To: "Lennart Borgman" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 26 22:42:41 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KuDNS-0007qc-Ol for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:42:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34015 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KuDMM-0003TJ-K6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:41:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KuDM0-0003TD-KW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:40:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KuDLy-0003SY-LG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:40:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50909 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KuDLy-0003SV-Ia for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:40:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]:13571) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KuDLx-0001dN-NF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:40:54 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1804066fgb.30 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:40:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:cc:subject:references:from :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Z4nh1rkqPmPMC5A0/AtvTed35A26GjClBRTWZive6ww=; b=JkhjWg5ChBj6BSbs6g5A5ZgnYkEX16mz2tCkkP/XEpxR+WZRdyG1sQacJYY74rg24y JsLZFEHeajYLL5lzW0s+eAY4dBvkDDKF4mRiNqC1odp23JFjOBYTGw9344XxSt8vkmBa aFpSAgfRLb8xy/t1XxJ3gOSlqcs/czq5zPinE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:cc:subject:references:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=NCc8byYy/quBHFg6zU92e9M1adZi67H8QiM+9AACmoBpgN0IaK7v1EvLGEDh2Ss/Y7 l3u8PYw/s+5P7lBNz3Im8lA0mYRkg/AiFRRqvqU2PINQWYcHe40+fYT6GYv91/+LW/Fv GWs74YPKoHJeCi/C17/1a+0O86JMlo7whtcsU= Original-Received: by 10.86.57.9 with SMTP id f9mr2525539fga.32.1225057249150; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ubuT42 (pdc35-1-82-242-132-111.fbx.proxad.net [82.242.132.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm4901495fgb.7.2008.10.26.14.40.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:40:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Fri\, 24 Oct 2008 20\:21\:19 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59175 Archived-At: Hello Lennart, Lennart> I think some people call that second project "Emacs" ;-) Lennart> Why not work on improving the documentation inside the Emacs Lennart> project along those lines? Or is there some problem doing Lennart> that? Even if most of the documentation in Emacs are in Info Lennart> format there are links to other documentation too, in html Lennart> format. For users, Emacs documentation state is bound to an emacs release. This documentation can't change between release, that is why this project would have slighlty different goal. But I agree, the flow of information could be : EmacsWiki ----> Online emacs documentation portal ----> Emacs Info -- Paul