From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pretest next week Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:34:06 -0500 Message-ID: <87hc3ens4h.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> References: <87y6x4ue2u.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87ocxqnnb6.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <877i4dk1rx.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233498830 14009 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2009 14:33:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 01 15:35:04 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTdPV-0000uK-3W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:34:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33192 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTdOC-00018Y-K5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:33:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTdO8-000185-2M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:33:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTdO6-00017s-UO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:33:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34788 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTdO6-00017p-RA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:33:30 -0500 Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu ([18.115.2.24]:50182) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTdO6-0001jv-JT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:33:30 -0500 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9BFDC57E196; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:34:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:47:57 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108519 Archived-At: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu writes: > If you want to start the pretest soon, I suggest putting off the > inclusion of the Cocoa/GNUstep port until Emacs 23.2 (or later). In > particular, the GNUstep port doesn't have enough quality to start > pretest. That would be counter-productive. Consider the worst-case scenario of keeping the Cocoa port: suppose that, just before the 23.1 release, the port remains as irretrievably broken as you make it out to be. In that case, we can disable it by changing the build system, and mark it as experimental/hackers-only. So nothing is lost by keeping the port (and I am optimistic that it will not come to that).