From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: message-mode is now default? Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:11:05 +0900 Message-ID: <87hbxagh6e.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <878wimdbzp.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87tz1av8ik.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <83r5weoz8u.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247930044 1537 80.91.229.12 (18 Jul 2009 15:14:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 18 17:13:57 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MSBbn-0004AM-DA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:13:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46986 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MSBbm-0005TS-P5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:13:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MSBbh-0005Qh-PJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:13:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MSBbd-0005Kv-Bn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:13:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33451 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MSBbd-0005Kp-6G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:13:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:40801) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MSBbZ-0003Ck-Rg; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:13:42 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226318212; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:13:34 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4FA7B1A3002; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:11:06 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <83r5weoz8u.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" 5bbff3553494 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112684 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > There are quite a few people who use the development branch for their > day-to-day work. Breaking their MUA, which is by far the most > frequently used Emacs application, should not be done easily. Changing the default doesn't break Mail mode at all! What it does is require one who wants to use Mail mode in the customary way to put his cursor at the end of the following sexp and type C-x C-e: (progn (find-file user-init-file) (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (insert "(setq mail-user-agent 'sendmail-user-agent)\n")) (save-buffer) (setq mail-user-agent 'sendmail-user-agent) (message "init file edited; please review for style and/or VC commit.")) (Note! GPL-licensed code, with emphasis on the NO WARRANTEE clause.) On the other hand, unless and until sendmail.el morphs into a RFC-conformant MUA, it is very desirable that it not be default.