From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Moving from Thunderbird to Emacs for mail and calendar Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:35:21 +0800 Message-ID: <87hbvcuqxi.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <4AA6E9D5.9050800@chaosphere.com> <4AA7B21C.4000008@chaosphere.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252507231 20241 80.91.229.12 (9 Sep 2009 14:40:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: GNU Emacs List To: Jeff Clough Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 16:40:24 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MlOLP-0003QV-J9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:40:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39561 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MlOLP-0007w5-0Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:40:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlOGl-0005an-FY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:35:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlOGg-0005TR-NU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:35:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51172 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MlOGg-0005Sy-ER for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:35:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com ([209.85.210.183]:57841) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MlOGg-0002I3-6V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:35:30 -0400 Original-Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so7934800yxe.14 for ; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:35:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=560SBAfo9eT0M81g6UWua8ta9uwsB0/LkHdQDdJpeio=; b=s82jhqVLa6yzbg9MnOs4+E8uAFWe8owHPg0E5TV2VbE2B0XNNaau9wzDx0ITEN5PaJ Yq/27wE9fksMBmoW4bh/UPa/c8vHNoXTlnChKp++nyDLEkpf4+6OaWIWWXyvum9Yo6CS 18sAPrBMXOf+ckkMX1GUjuSAxn8yDZmUh0Dpo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; b=C3JmfiGAi+oHrPwhHV4WXD5bxCv/JajooTBoSdFUebfCUuW0BPNNf6EWP4TDH76qh2 IOXRKahVv3a4aGHb0+Y2yeLUEFG1YlWluC1AfEomhQNFFNICfRUxYM8QHeOnsJqHXQ3/ 70x0cM/6gkqHteos8bBXVyENELXrH/UU2ZrX0= Original-Received: by 10.91.19.26 with SMTP id w26mr203002agi.17.1252506927583; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx (men75-10-88-166-32-222.fbx.proxad.net [88.166.32.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm169945agc.71.2009.09.09.07.35.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:35:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AA7B21C.4000008@chaosphere.com> (Jeff Clough's message of "Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:48:12 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:67995 Archived-At: Jeff Clough writes: > I've looked at Gnus. It uses the "paradigm" of newsgroups for > everything. I'd rather not have to retrain my brain for something as > trivial as reading email, but let's just say I'm willing. Is there a > way to see "I do not have an NNTP server, so please don't bother me > about it anymore"? It looks like I can set a variable so that gnus will > ignore the email side of things, but I can't find something similar for > news. ;; Don't use nntp at all (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil)) ;; Use nnml to read email (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))) ;; Fetch emails from the mail pool (setq mail-sources '((file :path "/var/mail/guerry")) > I've also taken a glance at VM and would like to go further, but I see > no direct evidence that it works with Emacs 22.x. Is anyone using VM > with a recent Emacs on Windows XP? Make sure you also have a look at Mew: http://www.mew.org > Before anyone seriously suggests moving to linux as a solution to my > problem (which seems dangerously near), let me just clarify something. > I'm well aware of my options in that regard and am very familiar with > all things *nixen. Switching from Windows XP to *nix for email is not > going to happen. Not at all. And I'm not interested in explaining why > I won't or listening to why I should. (That sounds a bit angry, no?) > Installing, configuring and maintaining an IMAP server in order to read > and search my mail is also not going to happen. An ancient version of > Eudora on my dad's old Mac LC could let me read my mail, *and* find my > messages, without having to run such a thing. And it did it for > thousands of messages without flinching. If a piece of software here in > the modern world can't handle it, the answer is to not use that > software. (That sounds a bit angry too, no?) > I prefer my mail to always be in bsd mbox files because that's still > what 90% of the world expects your mail to be in, can be manipulated by > any code that operates on text files and doesn't break when I move from > OS to OS. And speed shouldn't be a factor when your mua does proper > indexing. You sound a bit fussy about all those things. While your arguments might be very right to you, you'll certainly get more helpful answers with a more open-minded attitude. -- Bastien