From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unable to close a bug in the tracker. Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:26:40 -0500 Message-ID: <87hbqpmq7j.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <87iqb5o7ie.fsf@red-bean.com> <87pr5d5xco.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87bpgxo5m3.fsf@red-bean.com> <87zl4hfpm4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263432481 7861 80.91.229.12 (14 Jan 2010 01:28:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 14 02:27:53 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NVEUE-0004oA-RY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:26:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52183 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVEUF-000068-Dn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:26:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVEUB-00005L-HB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:26:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVEU6-0008V7-4h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:26:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36031 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVEU6-0008V4-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:26:50 -0500 Original-Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com ([66.146.206.141]:58294) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NVEU4-0000dW-9h; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:26:48 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46854 helo=kfogel-work ident=kfogel) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NVEU2-0004KV-Hl; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:26:46 -0600 In-Reply-To: <87zl4hfpm4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:21:23 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119955 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: >Why do you say that it is the right solution for Debian developers but >not Emacs developers? Speaking for myself, I find it pretty convenient >that I can easily manipulate bugs from within Emacs itself (including >CC'ing both individuals and, when necessary, emacs-devel). Hmm. Well, I doubt this conversation is profitable for either of us. If you can use that tracker and think it's the right tool for Emacs development in general, as opposed to you in particular, then we're probably starting from too far apart when it comes to UI. I believe you when you say you like it, but then, a high up-front investment in learning Yet Another Tool is probably worth it for you.