From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6493: Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:58:42 -0400 Message-ID: <87hbjil1ot.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <969BF38D66A0450F88923BFF8942AC68@us.oracle.com> <6B20ABD762564DE2AEBA810B54EB46FD@us.oracle.com> <21D2CFB9CFF34D04906728113DA42430@us.oracle.com> <6C93D3874C204C6BACB34962781ED1C9@us.oracle.com> <87k4ommcc6.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87y6d2jfm2.fsf@escher.home> <5C27C3C9B5A74BDC85D2D78C4E68F276@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280419714 2580 80.91.229.12 (29 Jul 2010 16:08:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stephen Berman , 6493@debbugs.gnu.org, Deniz Dogan To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 29 18:08:30 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeVef-0002cJ-8y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:08:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41339 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OeVed-0001In-P1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:08:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57982 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OeVeM-0001Dm-Sh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:08:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeVeE-000728-89 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:07:57 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55360) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeVeE-000724-5c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:07:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeVVd-0004YE-LS; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:59:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6493 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6493-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6493.128041911217480 (code B ref 6493); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6493) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2010 15:58:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeVV9-0004Xt-Hh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:58:31 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po23.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeVV7-0004Xn-Fp for 6493@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:58:29 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014221.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po23.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o6TFwg0w021716 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:58:42 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C5C82C013; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:58:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:44:52 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:59:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:39043 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: > The conclusion is that Chong thinks that "position" should be kept, > and Drew thinks that it is redundant. > > I agree with Drew. The manual says clearly: "The active cursor shows > the location at which editing commands will > take effect, which is called "point"(1)." > > So I'd like to commit his proposal ("Return the integer value of point > or mark, whichever is smaller.") and just get rid of this bug. Go ahead.