From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The copyright issue Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:50:22 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128476 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:00, Richard Stallman wrote: > >> My reading is that, in his perfect world, the GNU Hurd would have the >> popularity that Linux currently enjoys. > > Yes. > >> He did not state for what >> reason or motive the users of that world would have chosen it. > > Pitfalls and all, it is based on a stronger technical foundation > (though of course Linux has evolved a lot from its almost-Minix days). > It is GNU. And it's not from Linus. These are all positives in my > view. I don't see anything inherently problematic in software being under control of strong-headed people with different views and values than my own as long as I get to do with it what I want. I use Emacs, after all. And certainly not because that makes me feel closer to all those fantastic easy-going people that give it that hipster flair. Get real. Those people port Emacs to Apple computers. That's sort like mounting an accordion bass inside of a violin. Ok, a violin sucks at self-accompaniment (Bach's solo cantatas and partitas are more proof than counterexample if you actually try playing them) and polyphony. You can't really use it as sole instrument. But it is a thing of beauty, not of self-sufficiency. I lent my violin to my mother. It weighs less than a bottle of beer and was made the year Bismarck was born. My accordion weighs more than a case of beer and was made five years before I was born. But it has a lot of buttons to press. And some levers you won't easily find somewhere else. It was not built for me, and both its constructor as well as its original recipient are long dead, but that's not something I worry about as long as I get to put my hands on it. It's a beast to maintain. I had it open just this morning. Maybe I need to replace a few valves eventually. I am not worried that Linux is being managed by Linux Torvalds. He is doing a reasonably good job. And I get to put my hands on it. Because others are doing a reasonably good job making GNU and a lot of other stuff run on it. And I get to put my hands on most of that, too. So maybe I lost track of my point. But if I left a mark, C-x C-x should be all I need. -- David Kastrup