From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: dired and `ls' flags Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 16:18:32 -0500 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <87hbi5us0n.fsf@newsguy.com> References: <87zkvyv7vc.fsf@newsguy.com> <4C8169DC.7050306@ccbr.umn.edu> <87pqwuv4tx.fsf@newsguy.com> <87lj7iv4m0.fsf@newsguy.com> <8961B130366D45D899771EA2D600F8A7@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1283636037 14181 80.91.229.12 (4 Sep 2010 21:33:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 21:33:57 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 04 23:33:56 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Os0Mz-0007EW-7d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:33:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56541 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Os08r-0001da-Bn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:19:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58848 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Os08L-0001cZ-BX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:18:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Os08K-0003BH-3A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:18:45 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:38149) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Os08J-0003B6-OS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:18:44 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Os08I-0001PY-Si for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:18:42 +0200 Original-Received: from c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([98.215.178.110]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:18:42 +0200 Original-Received: from reader by c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:18:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:n1/FsxMV+1uo7SPOkYXfCukZK8M= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:74884 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> > OK, thanks... dired-details.el worked right out of the box. >> > I tried Drews' dired-details+.el but it appeared as if after >> > M-x load-library dired-details+ , that although the >> > trailing info indicated it had been loaded.... no commands were >> > available. >> > >> > However I then tried dired-details.el (no +sign) and no have the >> > commands available to hide or show the listing details. >> >> Whoops... I jumped the gun about dired-details+ not working... I >> works fine (Sorry Drew). I just hadn't realized dired-details (no >> plus) needed to be loaded too. That is, they appear to work >> together. > > Loading dired-details+.el loads dired-details.el automatically. > >> The wiki didn't make that clear... at least not to me. > > Hm. Which part of this sentence from the wiki wasn't clear to you? ;-) > > "This [dired-details+.el] loads dired-details.el > and activates show/hide, so dired-details+.el is all > you ever need to load." Gack... good point. I'll confess to only scanning the page... I got far enough to see that there was an enhanced version and went to it without further ado. And please note that in saying the wiki didn't make it clear. There was no disparagement intended. That's why I did include the proviso... `at least not to me'. I did thank Erik and I should have thanked the wiki authors... then too, but will do so now. Thanks to wiki builders... very helpful. And thanks to Drew in particular I find both the details and details+ to be very useful when I have to use emacs on windows.... somehow the default setup has never bothered me on unix/linux... probably something to do with system fonts causing the windows view to be too wide for the size windows I prefer.