From: Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen' <larsi@gnus.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-d deleting region considered harmful
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:42:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hbhmdbqo.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A3E1FECB5639491C944901638BC6DB59@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:13:25 -0700")
> The default behavior should be the behavior that we think is best out of the
> box.
THIS is reasonable.
>> After all, experienced Emacs users know (or should know) that
>> they can twiddle some variables to get any old behaviour back.
This is NOT reasonable at all and was said too many times.
BTW: New users are NO reason for a change. It just pure virtual and
holds no truth at all -- it cannot.
Most "normal" applications are inferior to Emacs, that's why we all use
Emacs in the end.
So how can those "normal" applications rule Emacs ????
I for one do not want to hear that virtual "new users" argument any more
on a reasonable mailing list. It is NO argument.
Technical advantages, reasonable behaviour and preferences ARE arguments
for changes or, in this case, against them.
Deleting regions through simple editing commands is NOT reasonable.
It slows down editing and is non-productive (some say dangerous).
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-18 20:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-18 1:49 C-d deleting region considered harmful Miles Bader
2010-09-18 3:06 ` Miles Bader
2010-09-18 14:53 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-18 8:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-18 15:00 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-18 19:22 ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-20 16:11 ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-18 9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-18 9:45 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-18 10:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-18 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-18 12:02 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-18 15:26 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-18 16:14 ` Christoph
2010-09-18 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-18 16:25 ` Christoph
2010-09-18 19:41 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-18 19:45 ` Christoph
2010-09-19 14:17 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-19 14:23 ` Christoph
2010-09-19 14:46 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-19 21:02 ` Christoph
2010-09-19 21:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-19 23:26 ` Christoph
2010-09-20 6:52 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-19 21:39 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-19 23:39 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-09-19 23:46 ` Christoph
2010-09-18 15:15 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-18 14:21 ` Miles Bader
2010-09-18 15:05 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-18 16:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-18 18:44 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-18 18:53 ` Miles Bader
2010-09-18 19:11 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-20 0:16 ` Richard Stallman
2010-09-20 0:22 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-09-20 3:10 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-20 11:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-09-20 7:56 ` Bastien
2010-09-20 10:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-20 11:21 ` Bastien
2010-09-20 11:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-20 12:07 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-20 12:35 ` Deniz Dogan
2010-09-20 12:37 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-20 12:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-20 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-22 0:56 ` Richard Stallman
2010-09-22 5:11 ` Miles Bader
2010-09-23 0:58 ` Richard Stallman
2010-09-20 1:24 ` Miles Bader
2010-09-21 0:56 ` Richard Stallman
2010-09-21 1:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-09-21 7:51 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-21 8:19 ` PJ Weisberg
2010-09-21 1:30 ` Miles Bader
2010-09-21 1:47 ` Leo
2010-09-21 2:42 ` Miles Bader
2010-09-18 16:47 ` Christoph
2010-09-18 18:44 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-18 18:50 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-18 19:13 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-18 19:16 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-18 19:39 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-19 6:31 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-19 11:07 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-19 11:23 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-18 20:42 ` Sebastian Rose [this message]
2010-09-18 20:22 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-18 14:29 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-18 15:07 ` Bastien
2010-09-18 15:52 ` Christoph
2010-09-18 18:40 ` Miles Bader
2010-09-18 18:47 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-18 19:09 ` Miles Bader
2010-09-18 21:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-19 14:00 ` Christoph
2010-09-19 14:07 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-19 18:00 ` Chad Brown
2010-09-19 18:21 ` Wojciech Meyer
2010-09-19 18:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-19 20:06 ` Should C-x C-x activate the region? [was: C-d deleting region considered harmful] Drew Adams
2010-09-19 20:37 ` David Reitter
2010-09-21 0:55 ` Richard Stallman
2010-09-20 1:21 ` C-d deleting region considered harmful Miles Bader
2010-09-20 6:59 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-20 13:43 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-20 16:02 ` Miles Bader
2010-09-20 7:12 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-20 7:20 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-20 16:34 ` Chad Brown
2010-09-20 22:09 ` C-x C-x (was: C-d deleting region considered harmful) Stefan Monnier
2010-09-20 22:46 ` Chad Brown
2010-09-21 0:17 ` C-x C-x Chong Yidong
2010-09-21 20:52 ` Johan Bockgård
2010-09-21 0:28 ` C-x C-x (was: C-d deleting region considered harmful) Andrew W. Nosenko
2010-09-21 1:06 ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2010-09-21 7:49 ` C-x C-x David Kastrup
2010-09-21 9:22 ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2010-09-21 9:40 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-24 23:59 ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2010-09-21 7:25 ` C-x C-x (was: C-d deleting region considered harmful) Thierry Volpiatto
2010-09-21 1:03 ` C-d deleting region considered harmful Miles Bader
2010-09-21 19:12 ` Chad Brown
2010-09-19 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-19 19:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-09-19 21:27 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-19 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-19 21:11 ` Christoph
2010-09-21 6:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-21 8:04 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-21 8:23 ` Leo
2010-09-21 8:52 ` Deniz Dogan
2010-09-21 9:20 ` Leo
2010-09-21 9:56 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-18 20:23 ` Christoph
2010-09-19 6:28 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-19 12:40 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-19 13:38 ` Christoph
2010-09-19 14:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-19 19:18 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-19 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-22 9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-19 13:55 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-19 14:23 ` Christoph
2010-09-18 18:44 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-19 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-09-18 11:55 dhruva
2010-09-18 14:22 ` Miles Bader
2010-09-18 15:18 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-18 17:48 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-18 19:24 ` Drew Adams
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