From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Earl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Limited-access technical advice Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 13:30:17 -0600 Message-ID: <87hb9bk2eu.fsf@notengoamigos.org> References: <87pqnzk3h8.fsf@notengoamigos.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304451017 10534 80.91.229.12 (3 May 2011 19:30:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 19:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 03 21:30:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHLIQ-00041a-SF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 21:30:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52951 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHLIQ-0003XW-Bg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:30:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33768) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHLIN-0003Vp-Lm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:30:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHLIM-0002jg-N7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:30:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout10.yourhostingaccount.com ([65.254.253.86]:58322) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHLIL-0002hM-9C; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:30:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.8] helo=mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout10.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1QHLIK-0000NK-4e; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1QHLIK-0007PB-3j; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.8]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id f7W31g00L0ASqTN0000000; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:30:03 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: f7W31g00L0ASqTN0000000 Original-Received: from [67.214.244.122] (helo=c3po) by authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1QHLIJ-000393-I1; Tue, 03 May 2011 15:30:03 -0400 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAAAAAByaaZbAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAAAFz UkdCAK7OHOkAAAAgY0hSTQAAeiYAAICEAAD6AAAAgOgAAHUwAADqYAAAOpgAABdwnLpRPAAAAAlw SFlzAAASmwAAEpsB4JJZDAAAAAl2cEFnAAAAMAAAADAAzu6MVwAAAaFJREFUSMe1VtuxxSAIzIz9 2Iyl2Aj1bBX0k5+LrwjGjJyPy2ROwtGNBJbVCwwwy1UNoOL3f+SBxkj15Lr4NsboN24DWMZxYQNA TjGmjC1gswJiqBbpDeANYMwXBFyAFB5L7ADMBcoSDgAFBSDHR2tA8ABMSB4AawB76pAnILsKx2lm 1VfpgUi3kxrySylRHdmQj40Jva2/jl8EY3Twv/phhsC9nIQR0hnAOUptYsL3RxvAk+YIH2AWsvTH GYBgKn8GaPYm5jNANaCQ8WfAzyH9x0crFfGl9X4QVdg8gEqN2KjBHi6V/iBq6iyAxTqd+Yvupwai VwM9LZkxQ6otihmS6H+mHlK5URwi0UQgWxHoxS5JagBSed7IzJRCallS2pg2QsamcGUFNSHgLZUv augJIUualv1Bv6+yVat1oeMq92s/mBBWQJH7dQX7CnpvWWs/4CazpHlB2RR1BFSzNGdIaTbbLil8 U76BKKU0GztapXP3C78bNYQ6MTQybY8OkIaITf9HPzyHkXE4YXs4mf5VDz+jAepj3RTQ3Ubv0SPy 9AcCrfKh0TBgvgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAxMS0wMS0wM1QxMDo1MDo1NC0wNzowMIgC s0IAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMTAtMDQtMDVUMTM6MjQ6NDgtMDY6MDCtwF/YAAAAAElF TkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Tue, 3 May 2011 21:11:52 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-EN-UserInfo: f8a5a3c49e1c4664ba81facb1022c4a9:67ddfe7aeaee6d1ea5b788d961d42633 X-EN-AuthUser: jearl@notengoamigos.org X-EN-OrigIP: 67.214.244.122 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 65.254.253.86 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139068 Archived-At: On Tue, May 03 2011, Lennart Borgman wrote: > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Jason Earl wrote: >> On Tue, May 03 2011, Richard Stallman wrote: >> >>> It was reported to me that a lot of technical advice about Emacs is >>> requested and given in Google groups, which are only visible to people >>> who use Gmail. >> >> Google Groups is mostly just a web front end for USENET. > > Not any more. It started long ago as that but today it justs includes > what once was USENET. Most Google groups are not in USENET. > > For what it is worth I consider Google groups to be the technically > best mailing lists I have seen so far. That's an excellent point. It is more accurate to say that Google Groups is a unified front end over USENET and a whole pile of Google hosted mailing lists. However, there does not appear to be a great deal of Emacs technical advice going on any of Google Groups mailing lists. Just to be clear, you can certainly participate on Google Group mailing lists without using Gmail. I participate in a few Google Group hosted mailing lists myself. You have to get a Google account, but you have to get an account to participate in emacs-devel as well. Once you have an account Google will happily send you email to whatever email address you configure, and you can then read the mail using your customary tools (I use Emacs/Gnus). Google does make it a bit easier to use their email service, but you don't have to use Gmail if you don't want to. Jason