From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: C-h C-b to view "Reporting Bugs" section of the manual Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 09:17:56 +0900 Message-ID: <87hav9oyq3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <41txz9pboj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <3C645B82A25242F7AF3BE16B9CB9BCAA@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1337645906 4010 80.91.229.3 (22 May 2012 00:18:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 00:18:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 22 02:18:23 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SWcno-0004zh-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 02:18:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45079 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWcno-0002iG-6s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 20:18:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36519) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWcnl-0002i4-In for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 20:18:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWcnk-000471-11 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 20:18:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:39601) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWcnj-00044d-NO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 20:18:11 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B78F3FA0845; Tue, 22 May 2012 09:17:57 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E49141A31AE; Tue, 22 May 2012 09:17:56 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <3C645B82A25242F7AF3BE16B9CB9BCAA@us.oracle.com> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" 5d3bb1100832 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.223 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150588 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > > Any objection to a new C-h C-b binding, to jump to the > > "Reporting Bugs" section of the manual: > > No great objection, but I'd rather not use a help key up for that. Will you > also want to bind a `C-h' key for (emacs) `Language Help'? And for (emacs) > `Apropos'? And for (emacs) `Coding Systems'? Different issue. Binding a key to Reporting Bugs is not for the user who strokes it, but for the developer who reads the reports. The problem is that this is not very discoverable; I would guess that the people who know where to find it don't actually need it. Furthermore, the need for a quick link will decay rapidly for most users. > Example: In my file `help-fns+.el' I added `C-h M-k' for my `describe-keymap' > command. Speaking of redundant bindings (C-h m ...) > Instead of binding `C-h C-b' to take you to (emacs) `Bugs', I'd sooner see us > add a link to (emacs) `Bugs' in the doc string of > `report-emacs-bug'. Why there? That has the same problems as above (except that links aren't a scarce resource). The link should be in the blurb that appears when you invoke r-e-b, where it is obviously useful and usefully obvious.