From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: policy, recommendations regarding `cl-*' Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 00:04:18 +0200 Message-ID: <87haqktp99.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <83pq59hl5w.fsf@gnu.org> <78C072FCB2534C21835E7E6788B10624@us.oracle.com> <5B02507A2A7040EE81A33348E6AAB04D@us.oracle.com> <87pq59cln3.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87k3vh2aiz.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348697069 29308 80.91.229.3 (26 Sep 2012 22:04:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Eli Zaretskii' , Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 27 00:04:33 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TGziU-0005j6-S3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 00:04:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59200 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGziP-0006KV-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:04:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGziM-0006KF-Bn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:04:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGziL-0000aI-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:04:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com ([209.85.212.171]:58768) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGziK-0000a6-6P; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:04:16 -0400 Original-Received: by wibhj13 with SMTP id hj13so2182530wib.12 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:04:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=JuZCUeLe4eVUendmi+Rll1kbOkknD82tULiYTPNXEPw=; b=E0B9Qa9MkcXx8CgLIr6qPuRIuNmDylEguFkxAT2UbA26VevGhF2Zc1Pvo24re+1wZG 8IQuqGJFYERT+OWkjkvMTbVjwQ13qM9w+c/inNwJjRbL583FDiUrGLfZy8zdlgriO/tW l2sXIpGabJf5meTmFqELhIJkOXThUmycV9j7Q8c73TJFC9AU5xT9z2dXLvVammuMbK0E ls/f8SaUQwNqS6m1HQp5aGjeso4izzgDBbCMBIerJxiGoVSoqxJIEtTXo62d7vgQK3jx u2IDoaUU/p7Mue2BlBDCbL/SlDHvZE4Sjt1JHqctTRg4tYhxOoQoKO5wH6Va82937PIe oIUQ== Original-Received: by 10.216.244.203 with SMTP id m53mr365312wer.46.1348697055123; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bn7sm9390372wib.8.2012.09.26.15.04.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8ACC422EDA; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 00:04:18 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:54:54 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.212.171 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153612 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > There's a bug: at run time, CL will not be loaded, so cl-position > won't exist. > For cl-defsubst, that's not a problem, because it gets macroexpanded > away during compilation, so it's not needed at run-time. > > IOW if you use CL functions, you need (require 'cl-lib) without wrapping > it in eval-when-compile. That's perfectly clear, thanks. -- Bastien