From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Leha Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] synctex support for pdf export Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:33:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87haj8f89w.fsf@med.uni-goettingen.de> References: <1364786101-16603-1-git-send-email-aaronecay@gmail.com> <87r4iutxvf.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38349) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URfmx-0002HC-Ea for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 05:33:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URfmw-00016Z-2n for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 05:33:27 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43604) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URfmv-00016J-Ss for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 05:33:26 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1URfms-0000qJ-LI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:33:22 +0200 Received: from genepi110.genepi.med.uni-goettingen.de ([134.76.140.110]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:33:22 +0200 Received: from andreas.leha by genepi110.genepi.med.uni-goettingen.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:33:22 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Aaron Ecay writes: > >> This patch series is an attempt to add synctex support to org mode. > > Thank you for your patch. > >> I have not tested this code extensively, but it does work for me. I >> don't know if it works for async export or not, since I haven't set up >> a working environment for that. > > Async export works out of-the-box (though not optimized). There's no > special environment to set up. > >> There are currently limitations. The granularity of the jumping is >> not great, because of the way the parser works. It will get you into >> the paragraph corresponding to the PDF location, but no closer (with >> pure latex, you will arrive at the exact line in the tex file). You >> also have to run org-latex-patch-synctex manually, unless you use the >> direct-to-pdf export option (C-c C-e l p). In regular latex, beamer >> documents have somewhat degraded synctex granularity (in general, you >> don't get to the exact source line, but only somewhere between >> \begin{frame} and \end{frame}). This may be compounded by the bad >> granularity of this patch -- I have not tested this combo very much. > > [...] > > As you notice, there are many limitations and I agree some of them will > be tedious to overcome. It also breaks asynchronous export. > > Moreover, modifying both parser and core export framework for an > optional feature within a single back-end family is not right, IMO. > > While I acknowledge the investment put into this patch, I won't accept > it in its current form. I might consider it if it only modifies > ox-latex.el, handles include keywords and buffer modifications through > Babel, and doesn't break asynchronous export. Not relying on text > properties is a real plus. > > Though, don't push it too hard, I'm really not sure it's worth the > trouble. > > > Regards, Hi Nicolas, I understand all your points very well: Too heavy changes for an optional and still feature-incomplete patch targeting a sub-group of users. But the provided functionality would be really handy for everybody who writes larger documents (like a thesis) with org-mode and has to incorporate comments made to the pdf. This feature has been asked for on this list https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2010-08/msg01253.html and on stackoverflow http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9965049/how-to-use-synctex-with-org-mode So I just want to contradict your last statement: IMO it's worth the trouble to get this working in orgmode. Best, Andreas