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[109.211.30.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nf9sm13476536wic.3.2013.05.06.05.19.43 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 06 May 2013 05:19:43 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159367 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > joakim@verona.se writes: > > > Some of us are making a best effort. > > Good for you. But GSoC is based on orgs, not on individual mentors. > > > The effort doesnt show much on this list because its not here its > > taking place. > > I don't have a problem with that.[1] I do have a problem with a > situation where students announce moments before the proposal deadline > that they need mentors, and at the last minute a pseudo-org is created. > > > Damirod wrote the proposals etc, and he made a good job. > > ?? I thought students write proposals? Do you mean the ideas page? I wrote both of them and I am a student. > When I looked at the GNU Project ideas page around the end of the org > application period, I couldn't find any details on Emacs projects (and > the page was pretty scanty overall). I have only added an entry for Emacs at the beginning of last week, I'm sorry. > Footnotes: > [1] I admit I'm curious where it's taking place. Everything I've > seen on the Google mentors' list indicates it's best practice to > organize the "GSoC (sub)org" (including admin, mentors, and their > backups) on the community's usual dev channels, and explicitly move > evaluation to a private, mentors-only channel. Opinion is divided on > whether proposals should actually be discussed in public before the > due date. IMHO a project needs to be well organized when: 1. the project wants to be involved in the GSoC; 2. there is a lot of students; From=20what I've seen, that's not the case for Emacs. As you've pointed out, Emacs doesn't have an ideas page, and only two students have expressed themselves after I've told I wanted to participate to the GSoC. Besides, Emacs doesn't need to be a formal organization because it is under the GNU umbrella. =2D-=20 Daimrod/Greg --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRh6CBAAoJEBNzVHcrZRiUpEMP/3DL/IdveCa0wYjatPLRc6VJ +jP0Ov6sSXpPmC01Mm/rqTYUtu8gChp6hu9XndXEVZJXP9/XThuWLTwaotkGxq3H TdP15IXe3RLLWMoM98pcQNGclXZ/4Uv336P10deY4E4Cf122dpEDS8qk6kSeqQrH sr2YT+jMXH3ub5aNaPXqljzGXsY8Pte51ivbUbZZNpgv3qO1vQMk7vK7mvImTV7r bYEyi5FfyfUI5KiAmE21xMD+bIWo1V28ofwvMDq9tu+bPINC5IoggVHbTJrtjpnP m07OimVOMp1DzGTWSAvxmSE/UWsHEcy8ffadsHG3cUJQRXjYISNdwUgiqNH83eoB 6+kEw28R/l4pNSkgfxvfGV1MRTwkpCSuJkuROtPjeAqvUtmJkAvtJPKyVNRHXtsV M6x81MvfsN0LG85/LftZnIACubUIAenJFMJa6VEKNDhjRmeMGlcq68ymcW0kCmKk On90bVbPJa+xVBzeS6YJUDZaZkYE1IGkq25L5XylTB+G3zivhgKfZr8Ot3RIV8EH nPQ3r2sa0N2lhQu1ejBUEFX1Ff5yMSbn+X1pSU2U8QZGCWyqwDrAOTr2rHxVrJGn SchOVAWBpE5UOdBnkn+XDuix70U8E56nSzswTzHCfdoSatq0jLvvvPUL5SW5Mf28 LEON/4wupXZAMSN129Pt =sL3I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--