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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, yandros@MIT.EDU, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bootstrap deleted DOC-nnn file
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 08:04:23 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hai7er60.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Ubc7i-0007Hf-BF@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard Stallman writes:
 >     "make install" (to someplace other than where I put my "system"
 >     emacs) is my friend here.
 > 
 > That is sketchy.  What exactly are you saying I should do?

I'm not saying you *should* do it; it's a workflow change with costs
only you can assess.

In my case I keep a "good build" (often a release) in
/usr/local/bin/xemacs, and several configurations by NAME in
/usr/local/src/XEmacs/+NAME/src/xemacs (ie the source tree).  Since I
do those builds irregularly I usually have a series of binaries lying
around, and for functions that aren't related to a particular build,
that's often enough to check that it's a recent bug.  That allows me
to restrict bisection.  If not I go directly to bisection.

If I wanted to completely avoid bisection, I would build my XEmacs
with "configure --without-prefix[1] ...", then[2]

    make install prefix=/usr/local/save/`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`

I don't know if Emacs supports all the features needed, but I suspect
Emacs *does* support them since the GNUStep port provides a
"relocatable installation" like --without-prefix.  You would get the
same effect with "configure --prefix=/usr/local/`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`"
and then just "make install" (at the expense of needing to reconfigure
and rebuild if you want to install to an "always good" location the
way I use /usr/local).  (N.B. Use of a time stamp happens to be
well-fitted to your requirements, but it's not designed that way.  I
do this with build logs anyway, so it was the natural thing to do
here.)

There was also a program called "GNU stow" which provided support for
doing this kind of thing (more aimed at supporting multiple
architectures served from an single NFS server).  I never used it but
a couple of people who adminned such systems recommended it highly (in
1998...).


Footnotes: 
[1]  This option makes XEmacs assume an installation layout relative
to the executable, and the prefix is nowhere compiled in to the binary
except in the `describe-installation' string.

[2]  Adjust to taste; I only have one application I would do this for,
so a timestamp is all I need.




  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-12 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-10  0:22 Bootstrap deleted DOC-nnn file Richard Stallman
2013-05-10  9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-10 11:02   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-10 12:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-10 17:01       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-10 17:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-11  2:46           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-10 22:08   ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-10 22:33     ` chad
2013-05-11  3:09       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-11 12:10         ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 16:49           ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 17:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-11 21:44               ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 22:14                 ` Christopher Schmidt
2013-05-12 19:39                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-12  3:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-12 19:39                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-12 20:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-13 14:09                     ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-13 16:27                       ` Andreas Schwab
2013-05-14 13:32                         ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-14 16:32                           ` Paul Eggert
2013-05-15 11:43                             ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-15 12:22                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-15 13:24                                 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-05-15 23:27                                 ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-15 19:08                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-15 22:37                                 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-05-14 16:54                           ` Andreas Schwab
2013-05-15 11:43                             ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-15 12:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-15 23:27                                 ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-13 16:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-12  2:45             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-12 15:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-12 19:39               ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-12 19:39               ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-12 23:32                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-13 23:47                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-14  1:24                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-12 19:39               ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-12 23:04                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2013-05-11  7:13       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-11 12:10         ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 12:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-11 14:50             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-11 16:49               ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 17:37                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-11 21:44                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-13 15:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-13 23:47                       ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-14  1:56                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-14  6:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-14 12:48                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-15  0:05                           ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 16:49             ` Richard Stallman

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