From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs completion matches selection UI Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:25:44 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87hab7euef.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> References: <87fvqtg02v.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <877gc5fm30.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <8738msfqo5.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <20131120001047.GE23860@boo.workgroup> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384910721 4632 80.91.229.3 (20 Nov 2013 01:25:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:25:21 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 20 02:25:25 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ViwXl-00065G-4a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 02:25:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52367 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViwXk-0008Jb-MZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:25:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41998) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViwXb-0008Id-Pd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:25:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViwXV-0002sG-UV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:25:15 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:35179) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViwXV-0002s9-MP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:25:09 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ViwXR-0005wV-TG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 02:25:05 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 02:25:05 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 02:25:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:g5PwVwJ+ZrFai7PDQhX0rYhXtnU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165413 Archived-At: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:10:47 +0100 Gregor Zattler wrote: GZ> * Ted Zlatanov [19. Nov. 2013]: >> , but honestly any solution that pops >> up a whole new buffer is unusable today in 2013. GZ> Buffers are great because the user is allowed to do everything GZ> s/he can do with other text.[1] Perhaps the problem lies in the GZ> switching to/from and quitting of said buffers? GZ> [1] see https://sites.google.com/site/steveyegge2/effective-emacs#TOC-Dialog-Boxes:-The-Root-of-All-Evil Selecting a completion candidate is a very specific use case; the content is not text but a menu of options. In any case, I'm not against buffers but against the general UI flow, which requires either mouse clicks or hitting `C-x o'. Ted