From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:17:38 +0530 Message-ID: <87haavnoid.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83txf1blf2.fsf@gnu.org> <87txf133yd.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <83r4a5bj5x.fsf@gnu.org> <87mwktdy6r.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83iovhb0ez.fsf@gnu.org> <87k3fxdpmg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837gbwbcsx.fsf@gnu.org> <87d2lnevq7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ob57rlkb.fsf_-_@informatimago.com> <35e892b1-73b8-4ca2-9317-7eb83e7223e5@default> <464a688e-b7a5-4f6b-84b4-d7cd42107c8d@default> <87li074mxc.fsf@gmail.com> <83zjon7evk.fsf@gnu.org> <8761rb4jts.fsf@gmail.com> <83pppj77r4.fsf@gnu.org> <87d2ljwchj.fsf@gmail.com> <83mwkn70ad.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385744347 16851 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2013 16:59:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 29 17:59:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VmRPM-0001ro-Em for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:59:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48395 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmRPL-0008J2-Tm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:59:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54709) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmRF9-0007Uo-Sg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:48:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmRF2-0003gL-I2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:48:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22c]:53355) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmRF2-0003eS-Ap; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:48:32 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id rq2so14829482pbb.3 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:48:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=EBE8CpsQG+VnmURQPbDhClPGBHCjeMs33vOvgMpkqJw=; b=ilzsEuwmUNdAJL4pFg/EgEf2d78gTA49YhmqawdOnHbEhAGhvni/g+vz8jChRMuTla wmU7FcEH88yptbdPN/aIEGapJuOKyeMWxrwM6ZEflfdBkVPIj0zXKYmtvEGdGYVV3qPV ihDRF5OzPDkdG+GjSRPUcMCbKSKVFNPwvL6tDvySNd3UdjRsTfhUUtRnLGP6tZGODOAN qb6NV3v2So+nw9YUumFPs2P0PrY/BMqDEYZq10bafUjbCbMoHDly2UfLTOdla+2M0DFK +hU98ZIxf6h8wKBxdbzrU32AD/qi+7Bjl1/ZaHNTCVGUrXl6+FtW/Om3fRcVzhg02XzF ipSA== X-Received: by 10.68.102.133 with SMTP id fo5mr4234203pbb.175.1385743711009; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:48:31 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.242.145.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pu5sm117030062pac.21.2013.11.29.08.48.28 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:48:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83mwkn70ad.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:25:14 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165882 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > No, I'm saying more than that: inserting those control characters _is_ > the Emacs way of tagging the paragraph as having a certain base > direction. Since Emacs is mostly about plain-text files, there's no > other way to achieve that effect, while being sure that any other > random UBA-compliant application will obey that. As a side note, what this means is that "importers" (HTML -> Text converters) like eww + shr MUST insert "extra" directional markers while dealing with directional tags.