From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Prefer Mercurial instead of git
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 19:54:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ha9i6yz1.fsf@wanadoo.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83mwjati8i.fsf@gnu.org
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Choosing git was, simply, the result of a popularity contest.
>
> Maybe we have read two different discussions in two different forums.
> My reading of it was that the popularity was explained by power and
> flexibility that are unmatched by competition.
That, naturally, is the opinion of git proponents.
Certainly, neither RMS nor Stefan are giving the OK to the switch
because they agree with them.
>> What I dispute is your implicit claim of "git is complex,
>> not-so-well documented and has a not-so-good UI, hence learning it
>> will be hard."
>
> Did I say that?
I think that that is precisely the message a bystander could get.
> I only responded to your assertion that the UI is a
> red herring, that's all.
>
>> For Eli's definition of "learning", the claim may be true. For
>> somebody else's definition of "learning", it is not. Not everyone is
>> interested on a thorough study of the tool "just in case" when some
>> simple instructions are enough to incorporate their edits into
>> Emacs' repository.
>
> I wonder how many of git enthusiasts think that way. My impression
> was that most, if not all of them think like me: that git is worthy of
> being mastered.
Whatever git enthusiasts think about the worthiness of thoroughly
learning git is irrelevant for the transition. The important point is:
"how hard it will be for Emacs hackers that don't know git to keep
contributing?."
>> For those cases, a web search will quickly provide the solution. One
>> advantage of belonging to a huge user base is that somebody, somewhere,
>> had your same problem on the past, and helpful experts abound.
>
> Do you act this way with Emacs, too?
Yes, mostly, although Emacs is not the same case. Emacs is an aggregate
of packages, while Git is largely monolithic. Most Emacs packages have a
very small user base.
There exists no Emacs experts on the same sense that there are Git or
C++ experts (i.e. somebody who quickly can provide an authoritative
answer to almost any question pertaining the subject matter.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-05 18:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-03 21:52 Prefer Mercurial instead of git Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 10:11 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 10:20 ` David Engster
2014-01-04 10:33 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-04 13:13 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 13:29 ` David Engster
2014-01-04 14:23 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 14:38 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 15:19 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 15:24 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 16:51 ` David Engster
2014-01-04 17:16 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 17:31 ` David Engster
2014-01-04 17:40 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 18:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-01-04 19:26 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-04 20:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-05 11:07 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-04 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 18:25 ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-04 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-06 12:26 ` Darren Hoo
2014-01-06 14:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-06 19:33 ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-04 14:40 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-05 12:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 13:19 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-05 13:25 ` Florian Weimer
2014-01-05 13:55 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-05 15:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-05 16:18 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-05 16:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-05 17:09 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-05 23:26 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-06 0:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-06 1:01 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-06 0:03 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-05 17:54 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 23:03 ` Dov Feldstern
2014-01-05 23:23 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-05 23:37 ` Dov Feldstern
2014-01-06 4:02 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 13:56 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 14:12 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-04 16:08 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-01-04 16:41 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 18:37 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 18:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-01-04 19:04 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 19:30 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-05 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-05 16:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-05 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-05 16:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-05 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-05 17:55 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-05 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-05 18:54 ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2014-01-05 21:07 ` Sean Sieger
2014-01-06 0:12 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-06 0:21 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2014-01-06 0:30 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-06 2:24 ` Jay Belanger
2014-01-06 16:51 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-06 17:13 ` Jay Belanger
2014-01-06 3:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-05 3:13 ` Jay Belanger
2014-01-05 17:16 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-01-06 0:17 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-05 2:14 ` Karl Fogel
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2014-01-06 13:08 grischka
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