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From: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is intellisense features integration in	Emacs	technically	possible?
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 19:34:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ha8vq30j.fsf@engster.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8761pbga2p.fsf@wanadoo.es> ("Óscar Fuentes"'s message of "Wed, 22 Jan 2014 19:12:14 +0100")

Óscar Fuentes writes:
> David Engster <deng@randomsample.de> writes:
>
>>> Writing a C++ parser and semantic analyzer from scratch requires several
>>> man-years of work for world-class compiler writers.
>>
>> You don't need a full parser. For providing completions, it is
>> sufficient to parse only a small subset of the code (declarations, most
>> importantly).
>
> Even for providing completions you need semantic analysis.

Of course you need that. Where did I say otherwise? I'm saying that when
you get parsing of declarations right, and have some good heuristics to
parse the local context, then this will suffice for most cases.

Parsing code like this also has some advantages, mostly that it is more
fault-tolerant. This is actually very important, since while you're
coding, your code will often be syntactically wrong.

> The parser turns to be insufficient on very simple cases:
>
> auto foo = bar();
> foo. ????

Well, type inference is hard. Currently, C++11 isn't on my agenda. But
I'm confident simple cases like the above will be manageable.

> The need for semantic analysis is unavoidable even on the "old" C++ 98:
>
> template <typename T> struct Foo {
>   typedef T Type;
> };
>
> struct Bar {
>   int something() {
>     return 42;
>   }
> };
>
> void some_func() {
>   typename Foo<Bar>::Type t;
>   t. ???
> }

This will work after I've applied my template patch.

-David



  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-22 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-21  2:01 Is intellisense features integration in Emacs technically possible? Jorge Araya Navarro
2014-01-21 18:59 ` Tom
2014-01-21 19:29   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-21 19:58     ` Tom
2014-01-22  3:53       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-22  4:36         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-22  6:31           ` David Kastrup
2014-01-22  7:26             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-22  8:13               ` David Kastrup
2014-01-22  9:33                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-22 11:02                   ` David Kastrup
2014-01-22 13:35                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-22 16:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-23  8:13                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-23  8:44                   ` David Kastrup
2014-01-23 16:19                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-24  2:57                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-24  7:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-22  8:49           ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-22 11:53             ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-22 15:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-22 18:46                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-22 19:10                   ` David Engster
2014-01-22 16:52               ` David Engster
2014-01-22 15:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-22 16:41           ` David Engster
2014-01-22 17:16             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-22 17:36               ` David Engster
2014-01-22 18:12             ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-22 18:34               ` David Engster [this message]
2014-01-21 20:03     ` Andreas Röhler
2014-01-22  3:54       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-22  6:28         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-22 16:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-23  7:54             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-22 17:29     ` Phillip Lord
2014-01-22 18:49       ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-01-23  9:00         ` Andreas Röhler
2014-01-23 19:34           ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-01-23 13:20         ` Phillip Lord
2014-01-23 15:12           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-23 20:56             ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-01-23 22:13               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-23 22:43                 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-01-24  1:40                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-24 10:25                     ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-01-24 12:46                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-01-24 13:20                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-25 23:42                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-24 11:58               ` Phillip Lord
2014-01-25 23:53               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-26 10:15                 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-01-26 23:04                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-23  2:22       ` Eric M. Ludlam
2014-01-23 13:26         ` Phillip Lord
2014-01-21 19:53   ` David Engster
2014-01-21 20:07     ` Tom
2014-01-21 20:13       ` David Engster
2014-01-21 20:24         ` Tom
2014-01-21 22:50           ` David Engster
2014-01-22  3:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-23  9:16             ` Andreas Röhler
2014-01-23 17:17               ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] <mailman.172802.1390363342.10747.emacs-devel@gnu.org>
2014-01-22  7:39 ` Jorge Araya Navarro
2014-01-22 15:39   ` Eli Zaretskii

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