Can I create an agenda sorted manually keeping its order at refresh?

Can I create an agenda sorted manually keeping its order at refresh?

[Martin Beck]

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Re: Can I create an agenda sorted manually keeping its order at refresh?

[Bastien]

Hi Martin,

"Martin Beck" <elwood151@web.de> writes:

> I'd like to create an agenda view which is sorted manually so that I
> can put the things on the agenda in the order like I want to act on
> them and preserve this order even if the agenda is rebuilt or closed
> and created again.
>  
> Is that possible already?

Nope -- this would require to store information about this manual
sorting *somewhere* when the agenda view is not present, i.e. in the
headlines themselves, or in a place where we would put meta-data about
the agenda views.

The manual sorting is really for temporary convenience.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Can I create an agenda sorted manually keeping its order at refresh?

[M]

> Von: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
> Datum: Tue, 20 May 2014 18:14:28 +0200
>> I'd like to create an agenda view which is sorted manually so that I
>> can put the things on the agenda in the order like I want to act on
>> them and preserve this order even if the agenda is rebuilt or closed
>> and created again.
>>  
>> Is that possible already?
> 
> Nope -- this would require to store information about this manual
> sorting *somewhere* when the agenda view is not present, i.e. in the
> headlines themselves, or in a place where we would put meta-data about
> the agenda views.
> 
> The manual sorting is really for temporary convenience.
> 

Hi Bastien,

thanks for your answer.
Could it be possible to ignore the predefined sorting order when refreshing
an existing agenda?

I just wondered what I do before refreshing ans why I do the refresh:
Some tasks on the list might have been done and should disappear, some might
be postponed by changing their SCHEDULED or DEADLINE date into the future
ans should disappear from the view after refresh.

Background: I have a block agenda with the tasks I should do at a certain
day, but sometimes (no: nearly always) there are too many, so that it is
overwhelming. They are sorted by priority and by a timestamp in several
blocks, but sometimes it would be nice to just set them manually in a
specific order which makes more sense (but I do not want to change the
priority flags).

Another alternative could be to
1) mark those tasks I want to sort manually for doing them first (with a tag
or a flag/star - does that exist in org-mode?)
2a) create a new agenda which collects only those marked tasks
3a) sort it manually (which leads to the same problem as above)

or
2a) create a temporary buffer whith headings that contain a hyperlink to
those marked tasks
3a) manually rearrange those headings

Kind regards

Martin 

Re: Can I create an agenda sorted manually keeping its order at refresh?

[Bastien]

M <Elwood151@web.de> writes:

> Could it be possible to ignore the predefined sorting order when refreshing
> an existing agenda?

No -- the way the refresh of the agenda works is by rebuilding it,
and we cannot rebuild a temporary order unless we store the manual
order information somewhere.

I'll think about this again later on, but there is no easy solution.

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Can I create an agenda sorted manually keeping its order at refresh?

[Samuel Wales]

you can use, for example, priorities to indicate the order you want,
and then refresh the agenda.

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Re: Can I create an agenda sorted manually keeping its order at refresh?

[M]

> Von: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
> Datum: Tue, 20 May 2014 13:49:51 -0700
> 
> you can use, for example, priorities to indicate the order you want,
> and then refresh the agenda.
> 

Hi Samuel,

thanks for your comment!
I do use priorities already, but they have a special meaning and can not be
changed spontaneously (in my system).
Even if a Prio-A task is more important or urgent than a B-task, there might
be reasons to do the B-task first.

I do use the priorities already for rough sorting of the tasks, but as there
much too many tasks, the few priority levels are not fine enough for real
sorting and it could be quite cumbersome to tweak that.

Martin