From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org merging [was Re: next pretest] Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:34:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87ha1f4oe8.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <834mxjja88.fsf@gnu.org> <878umuytw7.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <1pk36du2dp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8761hwsxt4.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407995038 19214 80.91.229.3 (14 Aug 2014 05:43:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 05:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 14 07:43:51 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XHnpG-0008C8-Kt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:43:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52002 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHnpG-0004Ql-76 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 01:43:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50643) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHnp8-0004QR-1I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 01:43:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHnp3-00068U-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 01:43:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]:35344) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHnoy-00067B-3T; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 01:43:32 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id w61so601789wes.23 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:43:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:references:user-agent :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=ZxylBF1ZyJ5FA2TcyMClMybLOMvvwkm0qnXe3KGuSv4=; b=IjWfgwRF8tg3jIZ+Q6kdwAxYFbcgAmJNtqbifgND2ZLOU8cGYS1wWf/ZXe1riEQ1Pd 8Wvlp1f1Vk3S2+fSPKmxH+FKRg8UjYHloAjR2CXJjMdcJaZCb3SOd3KtmCpfVvb3WQhi WK7X2APOZZxKyLkSMicTdpYLrw3LjCbkJ+dY7zGa3dK+sVZibnQ5KkeJHxmxTC6Gu0uA KvwywOPAL2kADCwBUwW/3r6FSovY4U7TLXscovv3WpYNTjtt5HoF+0je1oQv2ZIAjItP mDmqMFSK50gZdF73v4PrhV5/CSuqv95bCfriy3xcTAkREjuWcpgdMq6dAfA2ggRL0rA2 Az3A== X-Received: by 10.194.80.7 with SMTP id n7mr8884091wjx.8.1407995010850; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.localdomain (ABordeaux-258-1-52-240.w92-136.abo.wanadoo.fr. [92.136.3.240]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ph10sm9102578wjb.25.2014.08.13.22.43.28 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 73B621C210FD; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:43:27 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 13 Aug 2014 15:46:45 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c03::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173654 Archived-At: Hi Stefan, Stefan Monnier writes: > While talking about Org: I think the current way we have Org in GNU ELPA > is problematic and incompatible with the way GNU ELPA is working > nowadays. It'd be better to have in GNU ELPA the *released* versions of > Org rather than the bleeding edge (which can be obtained from Org's own > ELPA repository). > > So I suggest: > - we remove the hack that adds bleeding-edge versions of Org to GNU ELPA. Yes -- this can be done anytime. > - we move the Org code from the Emacs's bzr repository to > an `externals/org-mode' Git branch in the `elpa' repository. At the same > time, this will cause GNU ELPA to provide packages for Org releases > with Org's version numbers. Okay. Do you really want to move the bzr history there or just import the Org Git stable branch into an externals/org-mode Git branch? > - we work on the long-standing need to include GNU ELPA packages in > the tarball. > > Moving the code to the `elpa' branch means that there'll still be a need > to synchronize, but the "orgmode.org => elpa" direction can be done with > a simple "git pull", and the other direction is not supposed to have > very many changes to sync, so it should be much easier. Agreed. FWIW, my plan for Org-mode development is (1) to let core development happen on the GNU ELPA Git branch and (2) to have a separate Org ELPA for contributions. Both goals are separate and (2) has priority over (1), which is not really necessary, but desirable IMHO. -- Bastien