From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:57:54 +0200 Message-ID: <87ha0x8xbh.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <513ad0e2-f7f4-484c-b17b-7c94a8c2fc7a@googlegroups.com> <8738chaieo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87tx4x9353.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ppfl91ft.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhq98zoy.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409173131 17655 80.91.229.3 (27 Aug 2014 20:58:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:58:51 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 27 22:58:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XMkIk-0004kw-Bl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:58:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33279 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMkIk-0007nV-2v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:58:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45086) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMkIS-0007nM-Qk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:58:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMkIL-00068R-9l for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:58:24 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56243) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMkIL-00067Y-31 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:58:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XMkIJ-0004M3-Ub for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:58:15 +0200 Original-Received: from 18.red-83-41-63.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.41.63.18]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:58:15 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 18.red-83-41-63.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:58:15 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 18.red-83-41-63.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:57tCj8tFxLsYCFs+/O8ykzxsiks= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99441 Archived-At: Jai Dayal writes: > No, my interpretation is correct. > > If someone writes a manual on how to fix a Ford V8 engine, the discussion > on the engine's fuel efficiency and safety is completely irrelevant. > Following your logic, one could then turn the discussion into the utility > of driving in general, since it may otherwise lead to more disappointed > people. > > His manual is about how to setup CEDET and use it. It's not about how to > evaluate CEDET in terms of productivity. The guide is about setting a C/C++ development environment. That means explaining how to setup tools for increasing your productivity. If one of the mentioned tools does not fit the bill for one of the use cases (C++) it is relevant to mention the fact. >>And no, it is not necessary to mention the bad ergonomics of Emacs' > keybindings whenever someone asks about how to configure Gnus for > reading e-mail. > > Why not? You just said that failing to mention the shortcomings can lead to > more disappointed people around. Exactly. If a C++ coder reads the guide and then expects from CEDET to provide precise smart code completion like other popular IDEs do, most likely he is set for a disappointment. > Following this "logic" failure to mention > Emacs' shortcomings during any discussion on Emacs features will lead to > more disappointed people around. You are a human being, not an 8-bit bot that is unable to interpret a message beyond simple logic rules. That's what I assume from the readers of help-gnu-emacs.