From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPAing all the GNU manuals Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:41:55 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87h9zrlxws.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87tx3st7cs.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <20140928104735.GB3157@acm.acm> <87lhp4knro.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87oau0t2yy.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411908170 3623 80.91.229.3 (28 Sep 2014 12:42:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:42:50 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 28 14:42:43 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XYDoJ-0002om-7a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:42:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59657 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYDoI-0004Be-Sh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:42:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34643) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYDo3-0004AJ-Bz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYDny-0003QT-QH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:42:27 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49999) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYDny-0003Ma-Jy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:42:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XYDnp-0002ea-U4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:42:13 +0200 Original-Received: from x2f43e81.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.62.129]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:42:13 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by x2f43e81.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:42:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 43 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f43e81.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mrJKCLb/fcFnKRmirJweMt2zbhA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174766 Archived-At: joakim@verona.se writes: > Nic Ferrier writes: > >> David Kastrup writes: >> >>> Alan Mackenzie writes: >>> >>>> You'll get one more non-authoritative place to obtain all these >>>> manuals, and from this place they're not going to be up to date, >>>> unless you figure out some mechanism of keeping them up to date. >>>> Keeping them up to date is going to be a lot of work. >>> >>> Uh, I don't _want_ my info manuals to be up to date. I want them to >>> correspond to the software version I have installed. I have nothing to >>> gain from using copy&paste of some code from a manual that is not yet >>> supported by my software. >> >> I've just realized I am asking for permission and I should just be >> doing. >> >> >> But here's one reason why things do go into ELPA. General negativity >> being almost always the first reaction on this list. > > So, I will play good cop. > > To me it sounds like a cool idea. > > Apart from just being good cop, I see some actual benefits. > > There is precedence in the Java world for this sort of thing, and there > its pretty useful. > > In the Emacs world, we would gain increased visibility of the GNU > world from within Emacs. ELPA browser frontends will also be nicer. > > Now over to the bad cops... Uh, you just smoked all the confiscated weed. Now what? -- David Kastrup