From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Achim Gratz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 19:15:52 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Message-ID: <87h9y48euf.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wq72ls2h.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87k332lnn3.fsf_-_@ferrier.me.uk> <878ujhtx89.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415816198 17351 80.91.229.3 (12 Nov 2014 18:16:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 18:16:38 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 12 19:16:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XocT1-0000s5-VR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 19:16:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56204 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XocT1-0004d7-IE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:16:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53878) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XocSh-0004cp-JR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:16:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XocSb-00031M-BU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:16:11 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34336) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XocSb-00031G-4e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:16:05 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XocSZ-0000aZ-UN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 19:16:03 +0100 Original-Received: from pd9eb17a4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.23.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 19:16:03 +0100 Original-Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb17a4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 19:16:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb17a4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.51 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:I1VLuogBPHRk8+CXt1REAVqYMa8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176834 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > The org-pkg.el file is nowadays built by the GNU ELPA scripts (there's > even a special exception in this script specifically for Org, which is > the only package where this file is not auto-built yet). > > What is the "version" file? I meant org-version.el, which makes each release traceable for bug reports. > Can you give further details on this extra autoload file? Org has split the autoload into the "normal" autoloads that are roughly for commands that the user should be able to use without loading Org first and a separate one that provides autoloads for the entry points into more rarely used parts of Org that don't need to be loaded up-front (these only get loaded when Org is actually used). That setup was gleaned from calc IIRC, with some nudging from Glenn. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for Waldorf Q V3.00R3 and Q+ V3.54R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada